In Reply to: The Panasonic boombox's had detachable speakers one rewired with Monster one with the original cables. posted by Teresa on June 8, 2008 at 18:24:20:
... because you say so and your Mother could hear the difference in the next room while doing dishes.
If a boombox came with detachable speakers, the wires used would most likely be thinner than audiophiles would ever use.
Probably 20AWG or 24AWG.
Replacing those thin non-audio wires with any thick 12AWG wires would allow the internal boombox amplifiers to play significantly louder with the same level of harmonic distortion ... or at the same average SPL as before, but with significantly lower levels of harmonic harmonic and/or clipping distortion.
Yes we do have a published double blind test by Laurence Greenhill showing that some audiophiles could hear a difference between 30 feet of 24AWG zip cord compared with 30 feet of 12.5AWG Monster Cables when volumes are matched.
The lesson learned here is to never use thinner than 16AWG speaker wire, and to consider thicker wires such as generic 12AWG, at about 30 cents a foot.
There is no objective proof that any wires, at any price, will produce better bass quality than 30 cents per foot generic 12AWG, as I use at home. Most blind tests are done with 10 foot speaker wires, so I can not extrapolate the test results to 30 foot or 50 foot wire lengths.
'Everything sounds different, because I say so, and I couldn't be wrong' is Bozo the Clown science. No audiophile on Earth has ever been able to demonstrate such hearing abilities to witnesses, or even close, in a controlled listening test, in the past three decades.
You probably have never demonstrated your hearing abilities in any controlled listening test so you CAN claim:
"There's no proof I can't hear differences between every component and every wire" ... if that makes you feel superior to those of us who have tested our ears in controlled listening tests, and found that "everything sounds different" is nothing more than a silly self-serving claim made by audiophiles who like to feel superior to ordinary music lovers.
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Richard BassNut Greene
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Follow Ups
- Reality supported by objective proof is my goal -- your goal is believing everything sounds different ... - Richard BassNut Greene 06/9/0808:27:25 06/9/08 (19)
- You really are insane! How do you explain each line of cable having it's own "house" sound - Teresa 09:54:01 06/9/08 (12)
- Overactive audiophile imaginations is the most logical explanation - Richard BassNut Greene 16:01:57 06/9/08 (11)
- If you refer to the right tests then coloration of different brands of speaker cables is easily verified blind - Teresa 18:11:04 06/9/08 (10)
- I don't believe they could, Teresa. - robert young 19:06:20 06/9/08 (9)
- "Many cables DO sound the same" - Richard BassNut Greene 07:32:08 06/10/08 (8)
- Clearly you didn't read or comprehend my post. - robert young 07:47:57 06/10/08 (7)
- Robert I never claimed to have heard everything, Everything I've heard sounds different, usually strikingly so - Teresa 18:44:08 06/10/08 (3)
- You two are extremists - robert young 18:48:57 06/10/08 (2)
- That is not extreme but in 40 years of listening I have never heard two products that sound the same. - Teresa 19:22:34 06/10/08 (1)
- The JREF challenge was made for you. - robert young 19:29:42 06/10/08 (0)
- teresa and I were hired by the Alert Moderators to entertain you - Richard BassNut Greene 08:00:45 06/10/08 (2)
- RE: teresa and I were hired by the Alert Moderators to entertain you - Analog Scott 08:55:20 06/10/08 (0)
- You're learning, Richard. - robert young 08:18:07 06/10/08 (0)
- "Reality supported by objective proof is my goal " OK show us.. - Analog Scott 09:06:32 06/9/08 (5)
- I never said all cables sound the same -- I merely noted there was no proof any two sounded different - Richard BassNut Greene 09:21:56 06/9/08 (4)
- Likewise there is no proof that some cables don't sound different - Analog Scott 09:34:23 06/9/08 (3)
- There is no proof you have three legs either - Richard BassNut Greene 16:07:01 06/9/08 (2)
- More strawmen, RG. Makes me wonder... - robert young 18:57:01 06/9/08 (0)
- Actually there is plenty. - Analog Scott 17:42:14 06/9/08 (0)