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Topic - No wonder you've got problems -- the USA isn't quite a democracy - Feanor 13:14:06 03/13/13 (45)

• The US Senate was never intended to be elected by the voters... - tunenut 03/13/1321:15:59 03/13/13 (17)
• I understand that very well - Feanor 05:01:39 03/14/13 (16)
• Both Canada and Australia stupidly followed us in having a Senate. - Norm 07:14:03 03/14/13 (11)
• Checks & balances - Feanor 07:46:06 03/14/13 (10)
• I was at a conference on Federalism when Canada was considering adding a Senate - Norm 08:25:09 03/14/13 (9)
• Canada was considering adding a Senate? - David Smith 14:45:38 03/14/13 (4)
• Correct; Canada didn't copy Australia ~ - Feanor 08:23:09 03/15/13 (0)
• Well, I took the Canadians at their word. This was in the '80s. - Norm 18:11:09 03/14/13 (2)
• I have no idea what you were discussing with them - David Smith 19:03:33 03/14/13 (1)
• I suspect, as I said, that it was strengthening it relative to the lower house. - Norm 20:01:49 03/14/13 (0)
• I can't imagine why the Federal government wouldn't manage Federal elections - Feanor 13:57:41 03/14/13 (3)
• Costs! Just think of storing tens of thousands of voting machines, hiring judges, renting space, tabulating - Norm 18:20:32 03/14/13 (2)
• There is a cost to everything - Feanor 08:21:25 03/15/13 (1)
• Obviously, in the US the Federal gov't., since Reagan, is pushing costs onto the states. - Norm 11:33:14 03/15/13 (0)
• "The USA is also burdened by excessive "checks and balances". - E-Stat 06:15:36 03/14/13 (3)
• Lightening strikes again. nt - Norm 08:26:11 03/14/13 (1)
• You see - E-Stat 09:00:12 03/14/13 (0)
• Yes, exactly - Feanor 07:48:20 03/14/13 (0)
• What's your excuse? - Curious 19:51:00 03/13/13 (2)
• "We have a unique take on Democracy." Yes an early rough perspective, like black & white photos. nt - Norm 08:46:31 03/14/13 (0)
• So you're saying that *American Exceptionlism* is its own justification? ~ - Feanor 05:03:07 03/14/13 (0)
• Nor - kavakidd 19:01:12 03/13/13 (13)
• Or so the FFs hoped in a world where government did little or nothing. nt - Norm 09:57:24 03/14/13 (0)
• RE: Nor - David Smith 19:44:07 03/13/13 (11)
• There's only one as I recall - kavakidd 23:34:02 03/13/13 (10)
• Switzerland's is not the only form of democracy - David Smith 05:10:32 03/14/13 (9)
• If Lincoln was right, a government of, by, and for the public. There are none. - Norm 09:55:18 03/14/13 (8)
• Lincoln never said that - David Smith 10:46:21 03/14/13 (7)
• He did, of course, say that. What is your point? - Norm 06:03:19 03/15/13 (6)
• My subject line was part of a complete sentence. - David Smith 11:06:50 03/15/13 (5)
• Well, he was consistent, but "of, by, and for" is well known. nt - Norm 11:36:33 03/15/13 (4)
• And? - David Smith 11:54:41 03/15/13 (3)
• What relevance did your post have to mine? nt - Norm 12:48:01 03/15/13 (2)
• You responded to me Norm, I don't have time for games. - David Smith 13:06:20 03/15/13 (1)
• Me neither. nt - Norm 06:19:45 03/16/13 (0)
• And the House membership is proportional to each state's population - rlindsa 15:52:43 03/13/13 (4)
• Reasonable? Only if you don't believe in "Rep by Pop" - Feanor 18:41:12 03/13/13 (2)
• By design - the Senate was to represent - kavakidd 23:35:55 03/13/13 (0)
• RE: Reasonable? Only if you don't believe in "Rep by Pop" - David Smith 19:01:04 03/13/13 (0)
• Not proportional to state's population - Michael Samra 17:05:44 03/13/13 (0)
• RE: No wonder you've got problems -- the USA isn't quite a democracy - Michael Samra 14:37:45 03/13/13 (4)
• RE: No wonder you've got problems -- the USA isn't quite a democracy - Inmate51 11:46:07 03/14/13 (0)
• It is money that drives our elections. Such money plays no role elsewhere. - Norm 19:51:22 03/13/13 (0)
• Humm ... well I can't say I believe there's "New World Order" conspiracy, but .. - Feanor 18:50:17 03/13/13 (1)
• RE: Humm ... well I can't say I believe there's "New World Order" conspiracy, but .. - Michael Samra 21:26:28 03/13/13 (0)

Follow Ups

• The US Senate was never intended to be elected by the voters... - tunenut 03/13/1321:15:59 03/13/13 (17)
• I understand that very well - Feanor 05:01:39 03/14/13 (16)
• Both Canada and Australia stupidly followed us in having a Senate. - Norm 07:14:03 03/14/13 (11)
• Checks & balances - Feanor 07:46:06 03/14/13 (10)
• I was at a conference on Federalism when Canada was considering adding a Senate - Norm 08:25:09 03/14/13 (9)
• Canada was considering adding a Senate? - David Smith 14:45:38 03/14/13 (4)
• Correct; Canada didn't copy Australia ~ - Feanor 08:23:09 03/15/13 (0)
• Well, I took the Canadians at their word. This was in the '80s. - Norm 18:11:09 03/14/13 (2)
• I have no idea what you were discussing with them - David Smith 19:03:33 03/14/13 (1)
• I suspect, as I said, that it was strengthening it relative to the lower house. - Norm 20:01:49 03/14/13 (0)
• I can't imagine why the Federal government wouldn't manage Federal elections - Feanor 13:57:41 03/14/13 (3)
• Costs! Just think of storing tens of thousands of voting machines, hiring judges, renting space, tabulating - Norm 18:20:32 03/14/13 (2)
• There is a cost to everything - Feanor 08:21:25 03/15/13 (1)
• Obviously, in the US the Federal gov't., since Reagan, is pushing costs onto the states. - Norm 11:33:14 03/15/13 (0)
• "The USA is also burdened by excessive "checks and balances". - E-Stat 06:15:36 03/14/13 (3)
• Lightening strikes again. nt - Norm 08:26:11 03/14/13 (1)
• You see - E-Stat 09:00:12 03/14/13 (0)
• Yes, exactly - Feanor 07:48:20 03/14/13 (0)