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No, I only saw the actual event, but you're right. _ Groucho: "Who are you going to believe- me or your own eyes?"

Posted by Bambi B (A) on November 10, 2010 at 19:01:39

In Reply to: did you see the video of the contrail being made? posted by Maniac on November 10, 2010 at 15:56:42:

Maniac,

I don't watch television news and until a moment ago, hadn't seen the video.

As I saw the contrail, it already had been formed and was dissipating. And, as the angle of the ascent to me looked the same as the kind of aircraft that are flying out of LAX for cross-Pacific flights- big and high-flying, and/or this could be a fighter, I didn't think more about it than a more dramatic than average sunset-illuminated trail.

The video though, changes my mind, though the video has odd qualities about it: 1. There is a portion- in the middle- that appears to me to be accelerated. This portion appears to contain the same artifacts in the image as fast forwarding on a DVD player- the frames appear to slightly pixilate and there are those kind of blocky jumps in the motion, plus more aliasing. 2. This may be well-known, but I'd question the reason a only a single news helicopter- in an odd position well out over the Pacific, was the only source of visuals. That there is no other video- even seconds long, nor phone/camera showing the same events. Having no confirmation- no comparison or alternate perspective is a bit suspicious- and often disastrous- Bush invaded Iraq based on one source and that nobody had ever heard of. 3. Has no one mentioned the two changes in point of view? This is subtle, but I don't see how this video can be continuous- even if from a moving helicopter. 5. As mentioned in the earlier post, and most importantly, why didn't NORAD detect this event? And why didn't Vandenberg, which, as they fire missiles, is guaranteed to have missile tracking- and is probably part of the NORAD network. And, why didn't LAX see it and have radar recordings? From the description, this may have happened all or partly within one the heaviest commercial air traffic airspaces in the World.

That NORAD didn't see this event and instantly and track it, nor can now explain it, is a strong suggestion of either incompetence and/or secrecy. I'm actually more worried by the incompetence than the secrecy.

So, yes, you're right, if the video is not manufactured, it was very probably a healthy-sized missile. My guess is that it was a test gone wrong, an accidental firing, or perhaps even a deliberately staged test of public reaction. I remember the furour- public notice- when Air Force One was sent circling Manhattan "for photos", and it struck me that there may have been a contrived public awareness message. In the Air Force One flight the intended message was, "President Obama is watching over you and is very powerful," and in this case, "Don't you Commie Democrats even think of trying to cut military spending, or you'll be sorry." and/or "In fact, the military were so incompetent in this case (just like FEMA), that the budget should be drastically increased. You're doing a terrible job Obamsy." Or perhaps it was Meg Whitman's missle, used here as her concession speech and best wishes for California. O.K., enough conspiracy theories, but there's too much that fishy- is this Balloon Boy II?

However, I haven't sensed a furour over this one and probably for the reason that people who've lived awhile in Los Angeles: the land of earthquakes, wildfires, riots, car chases, 1,200-rounds fired bank robberies, mudslides, gang shootings, riots, Charles Manson, Rodney King, the Menendez murders,Robert Blake, O.J. Simpson, and Micheal Jackson- barely notice such trifles.

As a demonstration of Angeleno reaction, this is the relevant scene from "Spring Break Disappointment 7: Marooned on A-Cup Island", due for release March, 2011

EXT.SUNSET: PARADISE COVE BEACH

SURFER/GANG BANGER /RAPPER ONE (sparking some chronic)

"Hey Dude, somebody's gonna gets their ass capped when their pimp gets the four one one they snapped a Trident II-D5 SCBM without authorization."

SURFER /GANG BANGER /RAPPER TWO (sparking more chronic)

"Hey back Dude, that's absolutely turbo rad phat. Some yachts
gettin' docked big time, my main Causasian. Hey, where's the rest of the bud?"

SURFER /GANG BANGER /RAPPER ONE (sparking serious chronic) (tosses a 6 lb. bag over to Surfer 1)

"Kevin, you are a caution!'"

Cheers,

Bambi B
-apparently not a rocket scientist

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