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In Reply to: I currently use a Shure 104E on my Dual 1229 table, and I really posted by alaskahiatt on May 15, 2020 at 14:47:19:
The 104 is from the mid 1980's and is essentially the same as the 97. I am sure it sounds good and from what I have seen there are some SAS styli that are available for the 104. Probably worth looking into if you like the sound of it.
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- Its about the same as the 97... - samstone 05/15/2015:51:19 05/15/20 (1)
- I have a M97xe on an AR-XA table, and it is lifeless-just the opposite of the 104e. - alaskahiatt 00:09:56 05/16/20 (0)