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In Reply to: Vintage Turntables (EMT, Garrard, Thorens) Opinions please posted by Phil_999 on February 9, 2005 at 19:22:25:
Well I like to see an open mind and someone traveling down the vintage road to see for themselves whether any progess has been made, and if any sacrifices have been made along the road. But I also see that all the names you list are prestigious ones, and have left out the larger Lencos, being the L75, L78 and G99. All of the 'tables you list need from some to a lot of reconstruction (new plinth, tune-up, etc.) to perform in the modern tunrtable sweepstakes, which is the point with Lencos too. Anyway, as a representative of the idler-wheel technology which majors in slam, powerful bass and musical excitement, the Lenco has also easily beaten the tricked-out Linn LP12 (Cetech carbopn-fibre subchassis etc.) in every area including detail, and in all the usual audiophile categories. It's also beaten a Well Tempered Classic (in every way), a Nottingham Spacedeck (in every way), a first-generation VPT TNT, and several others, the list gets longer as time goes by. In a comparison between two re-built 'tables, one Lenco and one Garrard 401, the Lenco was deemed superior, and this more than once. Let not the torch-carrying crowd come to my house ;-), there are more factions in audio than there are political factions in Africa! Me, I simply love the sound of ALL idler-wheel decks, and simply used the Lenco to promote the idler-wheel cause, because being overlooked, as in this discussion, they can be had cheaply and so I was able to encourage many belt-drive afficionados from around the world to seek out and rebuild large idler-wheel drives. The Thorens TD124 is a quasi-idler-wheel drive, and as such won't have the slam of the idler-wheel drives, but is believed to be more refined (the Lenco is also very refined, however). All that said, there are many areas in which the older technologies excel, not so much superceded as abandoned. Have fun.
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Follow Ups
- Re: Vintage Turntables (EMT, Garrard, Thorens) Opinions please - melomane 02/10/0505:03:35 02/10/05 (18)
- Opinions and recommendations - J.D. 16:41:23 02/10/05 (5)
- Re: Opinions and recommendations - melomane 05:08:11 02/11/05 (4)
- let's lighten up, shall we ? - J.D. 11:25:10 02/11/05 (3)
- We let you light our way, right? - Dave Pogue 03:56:18 02/12/05 (2)
- it's not about hardware, it's about overcooking the horseshit, thanks. - J.D. 09:57:35 02/12/05 (1)
- Enjoy that mythical $100K Lexus - Dave Pogue 10:19:25 02/12/05 (0)
- The Lencos also have the best speed contol adjustment... - Bung 08:16:34 02/10/05 (11)
- Re: The Lencos also have the best speed contol adjustment... - melomane 11:35:26 02/10/05 (10)
- Re: The Lencos also have the best speed contol adjustment... - orthophonic 15:07:16 02/10/05 (9)
- If I were looking today, I would try and find a Rodine deluxe... - Bung 23:52:21 02/10/05 (5)
- We could have a "how cheap did you get your Garrard" competition. - Mark Kelly 00:23:50 02/11/05 (4)
- Re: We could have a "how cheap did you get your Garrard" competition. - melomane 05:17:06 02/11/05 (3)
- Re: We could have a "how cheap did you get your Garrard" competition. - orthophonic 11:32:38 02/11/05 (2)
- Re: We could have a "how cheap did you get your Garrard" competition. - melomane 07:59:03 02/12/05 (0)
- You Win! - Mark Kelly 17:23:13 02/11/05 (0)
- Re: The Lencos also have the best speed contol adjustment... - melomane 16:00:00 02/10/05 (2)
- Re: The Lencos also have the best speed contol adjustment... - Tightwad 23:23:14 02/10/05 (1)
- Re: The Lencos also have the best speed contol adjustment... - melomane 05:30:47 02/11/05 (0)