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In Reply to: Re: Upgrade Oracle or Teres??? posted by Zach on September 20, 2002 at 23:27:06:
"I just know that what I have is very pleasing, and so I'm reticent to fork over the cash without having any idea of the relative sounds of these tables"
Allow me to congratulate you on uncommon good sense for a vinyl fanatic!You inability to audition is a problem with either choice. Obviously, you like the cartridge. I believe you should replace it 1 for 1 with a new one (NOS is problematic for cartridges). Any other cartridge would be bought blind, just like the table!
Then it becomes a matter of cost. The cartridge/tonearm synergy in this case would probably outweigh the disadvantages of the tonearm/suspended table problems (it depends on where the resonance of the suspension ends up). Although I suspect the shifting mass and consequent problems with channel emphasis and soundstage will finally get to you. If you are not particularly sensitive to inner grove distortion you might want to give the ET II a skip. I am very sensitive and have used a tangential arm of one sort or another for years.
"The Oracle could use some more "weight" especially in the bass, and I hear that non-suspended tables do better at this?"
Some inmates argue to the contrary. I have examined such claims ("suspended tables have more slam"). In the cases I have examined the owners were into rock, the suspension of the table was too tight (raising the resonance frequency) and the platter was excited by microphonic feedback (it goes without saying that these were lightweight metal platters) creating an artificial emphasis in the bass. I am not saying that this is always the case, just the case everytime I have examined it. Bass is a function of turntable mass, tonearm/cartridge mating and isolation. Air bearing arms and tables often have problems in the very low bass. Those problems are overcome by very expensive design and (usually) mass. Walker, Rockport both have excellent bass, Forsell good enough bass. All 3 have air bearings both turntable and tonearms. The ET II can be bass-shy with certain cartridges. In that case, you can probably find one used, try it and get most or even all of your money out of it if you re-sell it.For the Teres, I do not belong to the acrylic platter fan club, so I would only consider the upgraded platter with the lead shot loading (wooden bass the same). Even then I might want a lead mat on top of the acrylic.
I do urge you to have a look at the following link. They make a mount specific to the ET II, they have alternative, high mass platters and they are the same price range as the Teres.
As always, there is no substitute for auditioning. I have not heard this table, though I have heard the Mk V and the Teres (weighted and unweighted versions). The fact that I am still looking indicates my current attitude. Who knows what your attitude might be? It depends on your system, room and (most importantly) ears and attitude.
Best regards and good luck!
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Follow Ups
- Some responses (and a compliment) - Auricle 09/21/0203:31:10 09/21/02 (1)
- Re: Some responses (and a compliment) - Redpoint_Numero_Uno 11:13:19 09/21/02 (0)
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