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Following the leads posted in this forum, I asked Mad Scientist Audio (Bob Prangnell) for free samples of Black Discus. Sample arrived this week, and contains 2 quarter-sized disks, "Canopener size" I assume.
A little bit of background: I am a big proponent of using crystals to improve sound of the system, and you could say that there's fair number of them residing both inside and outside the components. I discovered long ago - very quickly - that particular kinds work best on particular positions, in other words, what's best on top of a transformer, most likely is far from the best on a plug of a power cord, and so on. That's not news, of course - but this evaluation should be taken in the context of a system, where various crystals were very carefully chosen for each application. That is to say, as opposed to comparing application of Black Discus to application of nothing.
Another thing - when speaking of improvements to sound, effects of Black Discus are pretty much like that of crystals:
- Softer, but at the same time more detailed highs;
- More detailed mid-bass - easier to follow the lines of an electric bass, played fast;
- More impactful, harder-hitting bass;
- Bigger - wider, and especially higher - soundstage. Depth is more difficult to assess, due to my musical material of choice;
- More relaxed, "analog" sound;
- But, at the same time, more forceful when called for. I would use the word "drive", instead of "dynamics", which assumes dynamic swings - again, difficult to assess with the music I listen to.
With that in mind, my first 2 experiments were pretty much unsuccessful. On either end of analog interconnects from CDP to preamp, and from preamp to amp, crystals residing there were more effective. The same goes for either end of several power cords - but it's highly possible that device of the larger "Cupcake" size could tip the scale in favor of Black Discus. As a next step, before opening up CDP or preamp, to try the device on top of power transformer, I decided to use the fact that it comes with a bit of sticky substance on the bottom surface, and try it around the VFD displays on front panels of CDP and pre.
Big time BINGO! Despite the fact that in both cases, displays are already treated with crystals, which are placed behind them from the inside, the
improvement from Black Discus was easily audible, and far from subtle. Curiously, position under the display turned out more effective than above. Also, it was still effective, but less so, under the meters on my amp, which are analog (needles - not, it's not a Mac).
Pictured are final positions of two devices. Needless to say, I would love to continue experiments, and have a feeling that larger size Black Discus could be effective in more places in the system.
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Topic - Black Discus arrived - impressions. - carcass93 10:12:53 11/17/13 (59)
- RE: Black Discus arrived - impressions. - Frank_Locke 09:42:11 11/20/13 (2)
- RE: Black Discus arrived - impressions. - geoffkait 10:41:19 11/20/13 (1)
- RE: Black Discus arrived - impressions. - Frank_Locke 12:16:53 11/20/13 (0)
- hmm, i don't have any VFD's in my system but... - popsy 19:27:46 11/17/13 (0)
- Thanks for your impressions. - unclestu 13:14:53 11/17/13 (0)
- RE: Black Discus arrived - impressions. - Joe Appierto 11:49:27 11/17/13 (53)
- Neither one is fully defeatable during playback. - carcass93 10:05:58 11/18/13 (1)
- RE: Neither one is fully defeatable during playback. - Joe Appierto 10:11:23 11/18/13 (0)
- crystals - unclestu 13:13:42 11/17/13 (48)
- RE: crystals - geoffkait 08:51:10 11/18/13 (46)
- RE: crystals - Joe Appierto 11:22:55 11/18/13 (45)
- RE: crystals - geoffkait 12:46:21 11/18/13 (44)
- RE: crystals - Joe Appierto 12:55:43 11/18/13 (43)
- Please enlighten me. - Lew 10:33:14 11/20/13 (39)
- RE: Please enlighten me. - geoffkait 09:34:45 11/21/13 (0)
- Do some very basic research. - unclestu 21:27:19 11/20/13 (37)
- Dear Uncle Stu,... - Lew 13:59:17 11/22/13 (36)
- I've never bothered - unclestu 19:00:41 11/22/13 (33)
- RE: I've never bothered - geoffkait 19:25:51 11/22/13 (32)
- RE: I've never bothered - May Belt 02:03:13 11/23/13 (10)
- RE: I've never bothered - unclestu 20:20:35 11/25/13 (9)
- RE: I've never bothered - May Belt 06:00:38 11/26/13 (2)
- Strawman Alert!! - geoffkait 05:30:03 11/26/13 (5)
- RE: Strawman Alert!! - May Belt 02:04:08 11/27/13 (0)
- RE: Strawman Alert!! - unclestu 18:03:31 11/26/13 (3)
- RE: Strawman Alert!! - geoffkait 02:48:52 11/27/13 (2)
- Before - unclestu 21:07:13 11/22/13 (20)
- Tree - geoffkait 21:55:07 11/22/13 (19)
- RE: Tree - Lew 13:32:44 11/23/13 (18)
- Mpingo disc - unclestu 19:10:50 11/25/13 (13)
- Actually, - geoffkait 03:14:48 11/26/13 (12)
- Beg to disagree - unclestu 18:01:57 11/26/13 (11)
- More sympathetic I could not be - geoffkait 05:47:20 11/27/13 (10)
- RE: More sympathetic I could not be - rick_m 18:35:05 11/27/13 (9)
- RE: More sympathetic I could not be - geoffkait 03:16:25 11/28/13 (8)
- RE: More sympathetic I could not be - rick_m 08:08:33 11/28/13 (7)
- Can't see the forest for the trees - geoffkait 10:10:47 11/28/13 (6)
- RE: Can't see the forest for the trees - rick_m 12:28:06 11/28/13 (5)
- Sign.......... - unclestu 11:53:55 12/4/13 (1)
- Tea and sympathy - geoffkait 13:27:51 12/4/13 (0)
- RE: Can't see the forest for the trees - geoffkait 14:13:10 11/28/13 (2)
- RE: Can't see the forest for the trees - rick_m 19:55:43 11/28/13 (1)
- Idle speculation - geoffkait 03:08:29 11/29/13 (0)
- RE: Tree - May Belt 04:42:22 11/24/13 (0)
- Define small - geoffkait 14:22:52 11/23/13 (2)
- Geoff,.... - Lew 12:54:31 11/25/13 (1)
- Lew, - geoffkait 16:00:38 11/25/13 (0)
- I found this... - Lew 14:18:48 11/22/13 (1)
- RE: I found this... - unclestu 18:12:00 11/22/13 (0)
- RE: crystals - geoffkait 05:05:23 11/19/13 (2)
- RE: crystals - Joe Appierto 05:33:00 11/19/13 (1)
- RE: crystals - geoffkait 07:06:09 11/19/13 (0)
- RE: crystals - Joe Appierto 13:18:22 11/17/13 (0)
- Might I suggest... - My name is Fred 13:05:16 11/17/13 (1)
- RE: Might I suggest... - Joe Appierto 13:26:45 11/17/13 (0)