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Have you ever hesitated to post negative feedback because you feared retaliation? Yes, this is a blatant troll, but is also a serious discussion that affects all of us who buy and sell on the used market.I faced this very dilemma over the weekend. In the past, I have bought and sold various items on both Audiogon and eBay, and have built up quite a good feedback performance. So, on Friday I received a set of tubes that were not at all what I expected. After trying (hard!) to resolve the conflict, I decided to go ahead and post the negative feedback, knowing full well that retaliatory feedback was likely. The heart of the matter is that negative feedback is often a buyer's only recourse after other forms of negotiation have failed. Should I have just written the money off and chalked it up to experience? After all, it was only $100. What would you have done?
In my opinion, I have been screwed on this transaction. The facts: a set of 12 'phono grade' 6DJ8s were advertised on Audiogon for $95 for the lot by Mr. Spafford (username Jarvis). He offered to pay shipping. Stupidly, I declined and said that I would add another $5 to help cover shipping. He accepted, of course. Now, I am not naive and knew full well that an offer like this would not include top name tubes. However, his last email back to me BEFORE I SENT THE CHECK said "I'll start testing and MATCHING (caps are mine) and get a really nice group for you". Does the term 'matching' suggest that I would receive pairs of tubes? Apparently not to Chris Spafford - what I received was one pair of Westinghouse (U.S.), and a triple of Matsushitas, two of which test at about 70% on my B&K 707. The rest were singles, including an RCA, another poorly labelled Japanese, and, believe it or not, an Amperex. Problem is, the Amperex tests below minimum. No test results of any sort were included, by the way.
The long and short of it: I asked for my money back. He stated in his last email that "Oh yes-- no returns of course. If the tubes show up here you will forfeit
said tubes."I should note that three other individuals who have dealt with Mr. Spafford have contacted me today. They, apparently, are unhappy with their own past transactions. I can only hope that my feedback will serve as a warning to potential buyers of the other items he has listed there. Caveat emptor.
Mike
P.S. I should note that as of this writing Mr. Spafford has not posted feedback for me on Audiogon.
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Topic - How Many Times Have You Declined to Post Negative Feedback? - Mike Currie 19:17:14 03/2/03 (50)
- PLEASE Mr. Webmaster/Bored close this thread... - Steve O 19:40:23 03/3/03 (0)
- In re-reading this post..... - Rod M 19:24:28 03/3/03 (0)
- A dozen or so..... - Rod M 19:15:02 03/3/03 (0)
- What a shame about this thread, and some participants... - Robert H. 16:08:38 03/3/03 (7)
- Re: What a shame about this thread, and some participants... - jcoe 21:22:10 03/3/03 (0)
- Yes, let's look at this objectively... - Bob S 18:29:55 03/3/03 (0)
- Re: What a shame about this thread, and some participants... - Mike Currie 17:53:49 03/3/03 (1)
- "This is my last post on this issue. " - Robert H. 18:09:55 03/3/03 (0)
- Nicly put, hope he's well... - Sector-7G 17:14:41 03/3/03 (0)
- Nice post - sed 16:44:41 03/3/03 (0)
- Well said. (n/t) - Ivan303 16:26:31 03/3/03 (0)
- My dealings with Chris (aka. Jarvis) at Audiogon... - awm 14:14:54 03/3/03 (2)
- Re: My dealings with Chris (aka. Jarvis) at Audiogon... - jbangelfish 16:23:36 03/3/03 (0)
- Re: My dealings with Chris (aka. Jarvis) at Audiogon... - awm 15:11:26 03/3/03 (0)
- Re: How Many Times Have You Declined to Post Negative Feedback? - Bill O'C 13:58:11 03/3/03 (2)
- Re: How Many Times Have You Declined to Post Negative Feedback? - jcoe 21:47:25 03/3/03 (0)
- Re: How Many Times Have You Declined to Post Negative Feedback? - jbangelfish 16:27:57 03/3/03 (0)
- Re: How Many Times Have You Declined to Post Negative Feedback? - Chris Spafford 12:14:52 03/3/03 (4)
- Re: How Many Times Have You Declined to Post Negative Feedback? - Mike Currie 13:23:02 03/3/03 (2)
- Mike the point is he sell you a junk for $100. - joeel 14:43:29 03/3/03 (1)
- Can't even agree on NOS..... - Sector-7G 19:16:28 03/3/03 (0)
- You know..... - Chris Garrett 12:36:24 03/3/03 (0)
- Have you ever noticed...... - Chuck Y 11:56:19 03/3/03 (3)
- Re: Have you ever noticed...... - sed 12:18:18 03/3/03 (2)
- But why his life falling apart with Mike $100 in his valet ??? - jtt 12:47:55 03/3/03 (1)
- Re: But why his life falling apart with Mike $100 in his valet ??? - sed 13:24:21 03/3/03 (0)
- he's now in hiding with your hundred bucks - so shame ... 11:40:38 03/3/03 (1)
- Introduce yourself please? - Sector-7G 17:17:46 03/3/03 (0)
- something sad here - sed 11:06:14 03/3/03 (0)
- posting feedback is an important part of the process/system... - sunnysal 07:01:22 03/3/03 (1)
- Re: posting feedback is an important part of the process/system... - metal005 09:22:31 03/3/03 (0)
- Do it.... - Story 06:27:54 03/3/03 (8)
- On the 90 days... - Sector-7G 08:04:40 03/3/03 (0)
- Stephano10000 - fatbottle 07:03:48 03/3/03 (6)
- Re: Stephano10000 - Robert H. 08:17:35 03/3/03 (2)
- Re: Stephano10000 - jcoe 21:56:17 03/3/03 (0)
- why "particularly if paying by credit card"? you mean Paypal protection? what's it? - metal005 09:03:23 03/3/03 (0)
- Re: Stephano10000 - Story 07:33:47 03/3/03 (2)
- Re: Stephano10000 - jbangelfish 08:55:55 03/3/03 (1)
- Re: Stephano10000 - Story 08:59:21 03/3/03 (0)
- he's a jerk - Peter_B 23:51:38 03/2/03 (1)
- Re: How Many Times Have You Declined to Post Negative Feedback? - see you chris 23:41:37 03/2/03 (0)
- Re: How Many Times Have You Declined to Post Negative Feedback? - Bob S 20:11:37 03/2/03 (3)
- Bob, would you be kind enough to drop me a line? - JeremyB 05:48:50 03/3/03 (0)
- Re: How Many Times Have You Declined to Post Negative Feedback? - Mike Currie 20:28:01 03/2/03 (1)
- Re: How Many Times Have You Declined to Post Negative Feedback? - Bob S 04:48:22 03/3/03 (0)
- None - DannyB 20:09:06 03/2/03 (2)
- Re: None - Mike Currie 20:42:50 03/2/03 (1)
- "matching"... - Lew 10:18:26 03/3/03 (0)