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In Reply to: NO matter what company, Automatically subtract 3db... has worked well for 30 years-nT posted by Cleantimestream on February 5, 2022 at 09:39:01:
Sort of, I guess. IF I believe Stereophile, and I tend to, the trend is to be optimistic.
But some are within 'tenths' whichI consider below the ability to distinguish while Klipsch seems to fit your rule of about 3db.
One speaker manufacturer even listed Anachoic and 'in room' which WERE 3db apart.
the reason I sort of defer to stereophile? ONE organzation with one method which means I should theoretically be able to compare across speakers and time.
IF they keep the measurment equipment calibrated....another can of worms altogether.
Too much is never enough
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Bypass a cathode bypass capacitor, is it a good idea? - cktc 01:02:15 02/2/22 (117)
- Thank you all for all the excellent inputs. (Nt) - cktc 22:43:52 02/2/22 (0)
- RE: Bypass a cathode bypass capacitor, is it a good idea? - deathtube 667 12:14:41 02/2/22 (0)
- more specific question - cktc 10:31:38 02/2/22 (78)
- RE: more specific question - Thermionic27609 14:26:35 02/2/22 (77)
- RE: more specific question - drlowmu 17:23:24 02/2/22 (76)
- There is much more to it than that - Tre' 18:45:57 02/2/22 (75)
- RE: standard engineering formula - deathtube 667 07:01:13 02/3/22 (73)
- RE: standard engineering formula - Tre' 08:19:59 02/3/22 (72)
- Would cathode bypass capacitor at input stage affect output impedance? - Lew 10:10:56 02/4/22 (4)
- No - Tre' 15:33:06 02/4/22 (1)
- I asked because I understood you to be suggesting otherwise - Lew 06:50:05 02/6/22 (0)
- RE: Would cathode bypass capacitor at input stage affect output impedance? - 91derlust 12:36:56 02/4/22 (1)
- RE: Would cathode bypass capacitor at input stage affect output impedance? - Lew 13:46:51 02/7/22 (0)
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- RE: 15uF ... main bypass cap value for SE amplifiers - gusser 16:20:34 02/3/22 (61)
- RE: 15uF ... main bypass cap value for SE amplifiers - deathtube 667 16:47:25 02/3/22 (60)
- RE: 15uF ... main bypass cap value for SE amplifiers - tube wrangler 11:41:05 02/4/22 (1)
- RE: 15uF ... main bypass cap value for SE amplifiers - rage 14:07:13 02/4/22 (0)
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- RE: 15uF ... main bypass cap value for SE amplifiers - deathtube 667 03:01:43 02/4/22 (56)
- RE: 15uF ... main bypass cap value for SE amplifiers - PakProtector 05:39:06 02/4/22 (55)
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- Why yes... - PakProtector 14:48:59 02/4/22 (6)
- RE: Why yes... - pictureguy 15:58:28 02/4/22 (5)
- NO matter what company, Automatically subtract 3db... has worked well for 30 years-nT - Cleantimestream 09:39:01 02/5/22 (1)
- RE: NO matter what company, Automatically subtract 3db... has worked well for 30 years-nT - pictureguy 02/7/2214:14:51 02/7/22 (0)
- RE: Why yes... - PakProtector 16:14:18 02/4/22 (2)
- RE: Why yes... - pictureguy 14:17:52 02/7/22 (0)
- RE: Why yes... - pictureguy 20:56:14 02/4/22 (0)
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- RE: the "concepts" are not defects ... - PakProtector 15:14:14 02/6/22 (31)
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- RE: it was your design ... - drlowmu 10:41:41 02/8/22 (3)
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- RE: it was your design ... - drlowmu 10:18:05 02/8/22 (1)
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- RE: Subjective Criteria, and the word " defect " - PakProtector 08:11:16 02/5/22 (0)
- RE: standard engineering formula - tube wrangler 15:43:21 02/3/22 (1)
- RE: standard engineering formula - PakProtector 16:02:00 02/3/22 (0)
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- RE: There is much more to it than that - drlowmu 19:44:47 02/2/22 (0)
- RE: Bypass a cathode bypass capacitor, is it a good idea? - drlowmu 09:27:28 02/2/22 (0)
- Space may dictate your choice - garymuffley 09:16:09 02/2/22 (0)
- Swap it for a DC Link cap - andy evans 01:30:18 02/2/22 (0)
- RE: Bypass a cathode bypass capacitor, is it a good idea? - Triode_Kingdom 01:26:40 02/2/22 (32)
- RE: Bypass a cathode bypass capacitor, is it a good idea? - Stephen R 15:29:27 02/2/22 (31)
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- RE: "get a few more opinions before busting out the credit card" - Triode_Kingdom 21:20:09 02/4/22 (9)
- Hmm, choke loaded low cap value has appealed to my engineering side... - Cleantimestream 10:50:26 02/5/22 (0)
- RE: "get a few more opinions before busting out the credit card" - Tre' 07:41:24 02/5/22 (5)
- RE: "get a few more opinions before busting out the credit card" - Triode_Kingdom 09:47:50 02/5/22 (4)
- RE: "get a few more opinions before busting out the credit card" - Tre' 11:36:00 02/5/22 (3)
- Conduction angle - Triode_Kingdom 00:06:53 02/6/22 (2)
- RE: Conduction angle - Tre' 08:54:33 02/6/22 (1)
- RE: Conduction angle - Triode_Kingdom 10:24:30 02/6/22 (0)
- RE: "get a few more opinions before busting out the credit card" - Tre' 07:23:36 02/5/22 (0)
- RE: "consider using inexpensive switchers" - 1973shovel 06:01:37 02/5/22 (0)
- RE: Sorry, but I'm skeptical - Tre' 06:56:39 02/4/22 (10)
- A different comparison... - Triode_Kingdom 19:55:15 02/4/22 (6)
- RE: A different comparison... - Tre' 07:19:00 02/5/22 (5)
- RE: A different comparison... - Triode_Kingdom 09:21:22 02/5/22 (4)
- I found the voltage - Tre' 09:55:27 02/7/22 (3)
- RE: I found the voltage - Triode_Kingdom 21:36:22 02/10/22 (2)
- look at the difference in the wave form - Tre' 17:12:09 02/11/22 (0)
- RE: I found the voltage - rage 05:15:32 02/11/22 (0)
- RE: Sorry, but I'm skeptical - rage 11:21:29 02/4/22 (0)
- RE: Sorry, but I'm skeptical - Thermionic27609 07:21:08 02/4/22 (1)
- RE: Sorry, but I'm skeptical - Tre' 07:48:29 02/4/22 (0)
- RE: Thank you for the link, Tré - Tre' 08:34:53 02/3/22 (3)
- RE: Thank you for the link, Tre' - 1973shovel 19:33:52 02/3/22 (2)
- RE: Thank you for the link, Tre' - Tre' 19:42:13 02/3/22 (1)
- "a lot of capacitance" - 1973shovel 06:56:11 02/4/22 (0)
- Yup. Lynn wrote a ton of good stuff on that site. - Stephen R 23:17:27 02/2/22 (1)
- RE: Yup. Lynn wrote a ton of good stuff on that site. - Tre' 08:39:37 02/3/22 (0)
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- RE: NO matter what company, Automatically subtract 3db... has worked well for 30 years-nT - pictureguy 02/7/2214:14:51 02/7/22 (0)