In Reply to: RE: SE tube amps - when and what to measure ? posted by tube wrangler on June 3, 2021 at 04:41:42:
"When that amp finally gets there, then it can be copied into more models WITH THE UNDERSTANDING that they aren't broken-in yet, and will change over the coming year. For the better, in these cases."
Since I have no confidence in my own ability to remember reliably how the sound a while back compares with the sound today, I tend to be naturally skeptical about whether anyone else is really able to make trustworthy "by ear" comparisons of the subtleties of the temporal evolution of an amplifier's performance. But that is just me.
One thing that does always strike me about all the claims of components "breaking in" is that it seems like a bit of a remarkable coincidence that everything is said to *improve* with the breaking-in process. Tubes, transformers, the chassis, the wire, the resistors, the capacitors,..., and so it goes on. It would have seemed a bit more plausible somehow if some of these things were said to get better with time and some of the others got worse. It seems a bit too convenient that everything always seems to get better. Again, just the natural skeptic in me speaking here!
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Follow Ups
- RE: SE tube amps - when and what to measure ? - cpotl 06/4/2114:24:38 06/4/21 (44)
- RE: SE tube amps - when and what to measure ? - tube wrangler 15:31:42 06/5/21 (42)
- Double Talk! - gusser 12:02:40 06/8/21 (41)
- RE: Double Talk! - PakProtector 04:10:49 06/9/21 (40)
- "I can always go and hunt up writings by DF, moo or DT and avoid doing everything they have said" +1 nt - Tre' 07:42:35 06/10/21 (39)
- RE: what to avoid ... - deathtube 667 08:11:44 06/10/21 (38)
- RE: what to avoid ... - PakProtector 12:53:04 06/11/21 (37)
- RE: wise up ... - deathtube 667 16:08:09 06/13/21 (36)
- It is obvious they are not following conventional EE practices - PakProtector 15:05:39 06/14/21 (3)
- RE: admission ... ? - deathtube 667 02:59:35 06/15/21 (2)
- RE: admission ... ? - PakProtector 15:06:14 06/24/21 (0)
- RE: admission ... ? - Tre' 06:31:14 06/15/21 (0)
- RE: wise up ... - Tre' 20:03:04 06/13/21 (31)
- RE: wise up ... - tube wrangler 23:53:45 06/13/21 (30)
- RE: wise up ... - Tre' 07:29:16 06/14/21 (29)
- RE: wise up ... - tube wrangler 17:50:04 06/14/21 (2)
- RE: wise up ... - Tre' 19:23:55 06/14/21 (1)
- RE: wise up ... - tube wrangler 21:03:49 06/14/21 (0)
- RE: wise up ... 15KHz - deathtube 667 12:09:37 06/14/21 (25)
- Got it. Yes, that is what Dennis says. - Tre' 12:16:21 06/14/21 (24)
- RE: Got it. Yes, that is what Dennis says. - Tre' 12:37:40 06/14/21 (23)
- RE: Got it. Yes, that is what Dennis says. - tube wrangler 18:01:08 06/14/21 (20)
- RE: Got it. Yes, that is what Dennis says. - Tre' 20:00:12 06/14/21 (19)
- RE: credentials ... who can challenge DF? - deathtube 667 08:30:37 06/15/21 (18)
- RE: credentials ... who can challenge DF? - Tre' 11:04:38 06/15/21 (17)
- RE: who can challenge DF .. levels to the game - deathtube 667 04:33:33 06/16/21 (16)
- this bullshit is not even funny anymore - elblanco 05:32:52 06/16/21 (15)
- RE: another ... - deathtube 667 05:53:17 06/16/21 (14)
- RE: another ... - tube wrangler 18:10:48 06/16/21 (13)
- RE: another ... you tried to help - deathtube 667 02:56:01 06/17/21 (12)
- RE: another ... you tried to help - PakProtector 15:56:46 06/18/21 (11)
- RE: LC filters for B+ ... - deathtube 667 16:53:40 06/18/21 (10)
- RE: LC filters for B+ ... - Tre' 18:04:28 06/19/21 (9)
- RE: LC filters for B+ ... it's about performance - deathtube 667 05:21:26 06/21/21 (1)
- Get your damn accusations straight - PakProtector 15:36:34 06/24/21 (0)
- RE: LC filters for B+ ... - tube wrangler 22:19:47 06/19/21 (6)
- no kidding... - PakProtector 15:50:21 06/24/21 (0)
- RE: LC filters for B+ ... - Tre' 07:23:28 06/20/21 (4)
- RE: LC filters for B+ ... - PakProtector 15:40:51 06/24/21 (0)
- RE: LC filters for B+ ... - tube wrangler 11:47:14 06/20/21 (2)
- RE: LC filters for B+ ... - Tre' 12:34:39 06/20/21 (1)
- the Math behind LC filter output voltage - PakProtector 15:14:00 06/25/21 (0)
- RE: Got it. Yes, that is what Dennis says. - deathtube 667 13:17:04 06/14/21 (1)
- RE: Got it. Yes, that is what Dennis says. - tube wrangler 18:07:31 06/14/21 (0)
- RE: SE tube amps - when and what to measure ? - AmadeusMozart 16:29:59 06/4/21 (0)