In Reply to: RE: Getting used to... posted by Stephen R on June 1, 2021 at 17:17:15:
All of these "by-ear" evals are meaningless. They only serve to muddy what what actually know to be true. Funny story, I once bought an integrated amp (tubes of course) and was astounded by how full and rich and dynamic it sounded. I listened to it for hours, convinced it represented the pinnacle of '60s amplifier design. A few days later, I put it on the bench and discovered a very unusual frequency contour. The cause turned out to be a defective slide switch that was partially engaging the loudness contour. After I fixed the switch, it sounded pretty much like all the other amps in its class from that era. Thank goodness I didn't go online and tell everyone how Brand X sounded better than everything else, and that measurements are for fools and idiots because nothing matters but my ears. :)
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- Audio moderate here... - Ivan303 05:29:35 06/2/21 (0)
- All of these "by-ear" evals are meaningless. - Stephen R 18:57:37 06/1/21 (0)
- I'd have put the defective slide switch back in... - Ivan303 17:50:15 06/1/21 (1)
- RE: I'd have put the defective slide switch back in... - Triode_Kingdom 11:03:52 06/2/21 (0)
- RE: Getting used to... - Tre' 17:48:56 06/1/21 (0)