In Reply to: RE: not worthy ... posted by deathtube 667 on September 19, 2021 at 17:10:07:
You have got to understand where your
detractors are coming from.
Most of them are into fixed-bias (unreliable),
1950's style tube amplification.
They believe all the old tube charts, even
though they have a really hard time getting
all the power the tube mfr's hinted at,
but never proved in the amp owner's
equipment.
A very few are into higher power SE tube
amps, but never realized that conventional
power supply technology is dead-wrong for
them. It was designed for P/P amps.
People still ignore the extreme importance
of mounting components very close to the usage
point-- something that doesn't make nice
pictures, but can be built rugged AND have
a wide musical bandwidth as well.
But it doesn't look like a clean P/P amp
layout-- and it can't if it's to compete
with the best amplifiers out there.
Low-DCR power sources are a make-or-break
item for a good SE amp. That's because only
one output tube is doing the signal sampling
for the speaker. No, such a P.S. design
won't satisfy people who try to splice
push/pull power supplies onto a SE amp.
The results are always dismal.
In a small SE amp, driver grid admittance
is of extreme importance. The higher you run the driver
plate current, the more of a "tuner" you are building.
The key here is to LISTEN to what is happening and
work with different values until you get it right,
commensurate with what the tube can run for a long
time with no problems.
Very few tubes that can actually perform well under
this requirement were ever made. The ones that do work
deliver stunning results.
There's always more, but just don't let them get
you down, they're selling tomatoes-- you might like Peaches.
-Dennis-
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- RE: not worthy ... - tube wrangler 09/20/2109:21:27 09/20/21 (72)
- RE: not worthy ... detractors - deathtube 667 06:57:51 09/21/21 (0)
- RE: not worthy ... - GEO 13:01:41 09/20/21 (1)
- RE: not worthy ... - kobasa@xs4all.nl 13:11:46 09/20/21 (0)
- RE: not worthy ... - kobasa@xs4all.nl 12:57:23 09/20/21 (68)
- RE: not worthy ... - tube wrangler 22:34:19 09/20/21 (67)
- RE: not worthy ... - PakProtector 08:22:03 09/21/21 (0)
- RE: red plates ... - deathtube 667 04:34:46 09/21/21 (65)
- RE: red plates ... - PakProtector 07:03:51 09/21/21 (64)
- RE: red plates ... - deathtube 667 08:28:30 09/21/21 (63)
- RE: red plates ... - PakProtector 11:20:17 09/21/21 (62)
- RE: red plates ... 1 watt - deathtube 667 12:47:22 09/21/21 (57)
- RE: red plates ... 1 watt - PakProtector 16:40:08 09/21/21 (56)
- RE: red plates ... bob and weave ... - deathtube 667 17:18:13 09/21/21 (55)
- RE: red plates ... bob and weave ... - PakProtector 04:02:24 09/22/21 (10)
- RE: red plates ... go ahead explain it - deathtube 667 04:44:06 09/22/21 (9)
- RE: red plates ... go ahead explain it - PakProtector 06:26:39 09/22/21 (8)
- RE: red plates .. more BS - deathtube 667 08:23:39 09/22/21 (7)
- your 'more BS' is right on the money - PakProtector 13:24:44 09/22/21 (6)
- and since you invoke Pete... - PakProtector 13:28:08 09/22/21 (5)
- RE: invoke the legal team ... - deathtube 667 14:23:51 09/22/21 (4)
- RE: invoke the legal team ... - GEO 15:37:56 09/22/21 (3)
- RE: invoke the legal team ... - PakProtector 17:12:40 09/22/21 (2)
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- RE: invoke the legal team ... - PakProtector 04:20:28 09/23/21 (0)
- RE: red plates ... bob and weave ... - GEO 18:44:06 09/21/21 (0)
- RE: red plates ... bob and weave ... - tube wrangler 18:19:52 09/21/21 (42)
- RE: were we wrong ? - deathtube 667 14:33:14 09/22/21 (3)
- You are wrong about a lot... - PakProtector 04:29:38 09/26/21 (2)
- RE: You are wrong about a lot... - kobasa@xs4all.nl 07:09:10 09/26/21 (1)
- but of course... - PakProtector 18:02:01 10/12/21 (0)
- RE: red plates ... bob and weave ... - kobasa@xs4all.nl 04:37:08 09/22/21 (37)
- RE: red plates ... bob and weave ... - tube wrangler 15:48:25 09/22/21 (36)
- RE: red plates ... bob and weave ... - kobasa@xs4all.nl 07:00:09 09/23/21 (0)
- RE: red plates ... bob and weave ... - Tre' 17:00:03 09/22/21 (34)
- RE: red plates ... bob and weave ... - tube wrangler 12:09:13 09/23/21 (33)
- RE: red plates ... bob and weave ... - kobasa@xs4all.nl 13:43:24 09/23/21 (32)
- RE: red plates ... bob and weave ... - GEO 16:07:26 09/23/21 (31)
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- RE: red plates ... bob and weave ... - tube wrangler 17:39:14 09/24/21 (0)
- RE: red plates ... bob and weave ... - Tre' 06:59:09 09/24/21 (27)
- RE: red plates ... bob and weave ... - tube wrangler 18:05:04 09/24/21 (8)
- RE: red plates ... bob and weave ... - Tre' 07:28:43 09/25/21 (3)
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- RE: red plates ... bob and weave ... - kobasa@xs4all.nl 23:13:47 09/24/21 (3)
- RE: red plates ... bob and weave ... - tube wrangler 03:20:44 09/25/21 (2)
- RE: red plates ... bob and weave ... - kobasa@xs4all.nl 04:25:26 09/25/21 (1)
- For $18,000 you would expect more distortion - GEO 12:04:57 09/25/21 (0)
- RE: red plates ... bob and weave ... - rage 12:29:04 09/24/21 (4)
- RE: red plates ... bob and weave ... - Tre' 12:43:07 09/24/21 (3)
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- RE: red plates ... bob and weave ... - Tre' 14:49:20 09/29/21 (8)
- RE: red plates ... bob and weave ... - rage 07:16:16 09/30/21 (6)
- RE: red plates ... bob and weave ... - kobasa@xs4all.nl 12:11:49 09/30/21 (5)
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- RE: red plates ... bob and weave ... - kyle 11:30:16 09/24/21 (0)
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- RE: red plates ... - tube wrangler 14:39:43 09/21/21 (2)
- RE: red plates ... - PakProtector 16:37:50 09/21/21 (1)
- RE: red plates ... - GEO 18:40:09 09/21/21 (0)