In Reply to: RE: still not buying it posted by Ralph on August 2, 2007 at 14:31:26:
That's the same circuit that I put in my post above. Look at the AC signals indicated on the diagram. A 2VAC input signal results in 1VAC at the shared cathode connection. That's how a LTP works when one grid is driven and the other is grounded (either connected directly to ground as in this case or AC grounded through a capacitor.)
If you recognize and accept the AC signals at the points shown on the diagram - both their magnitude and phase as depicted by the sine wave inside the circles - then look carefully at the signal between grid and cathode of each tube. I don't need to remind anyone that that is the signal that actually gets amplified. For V1, Vgk is 1/2 the input signal. The 1V at the cathode effectively is subtracted from the 2V at the grid. It sees only 1/2 the input signal and consequently only 1/2 the output signal appears at its plate. In other words, the circuit has only 1/2 of the voltage gain that the same tube would have if it were in an ordinary grounded cathode stage (same operating point, etc.)
In the drawing above both V1 and V2 have voltage gains of 20; 1VAC between grid and cathode results in 20VAC at the plates. But, the circuit, with only one grid driven, has a voltage gain of only 20/2 = 10.
-- Dave
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Follow Ups
- I'll try to explain it as well as I can. - Dave Cigna 08/2/0716:25:00 08/2/07 (21)
- RE: I missed the ground connection - Ralph 10:12:44 08/3/07 (20)
- RE: I missed the ground connection - Dave Cigna 12:56:29 08/3/07 (19)
- RE: Funny though, I knew there was something wrong with your argument - Ralph 14:26:56 08/3/07 (18)
- That's interesting - Dave Cigna 06:02:54 08/4/07 (17)
- Thanks to Everyone . . . And Another Question or Two - FlaCharlie 12:17:12 08/4/07 (2)
- RE: Thanks to Everyone . . . And Another Question or Two - Ralph 16:57:50 08/5/07 (0)
- RE: Thanks to Everyone . . . And Another Question or Two - Dave Cigna 15:55:47 08/5/07 (0)
- another thought - Dave Cigna 11:13:52 08/4/07 (13)
- RE: another thought - Ralph 16:40:04 08/5/07 (12)
- RE: another thought - Dave Cigna 08:50:37 08/6/07 (11)
- RE: crow 10:1 - Ralph 10:57:16 08/6/07 (10)
- RE: crow 10:1 - Dave Cigna 08:17:46 08/8/07 (0)
- Will The Paraphase Need Feedback? - FlaCharlie 12:10:36 08/6/07 (2)
- Pete's circuit - Russ57 14:27:19 08/6/07 (0)
- RE: Will The Paraphase Need Feedback? - Ralph 13:29:24 08/6/07 (0)
- differential driver is the more elegant - Russ57 11:59:53 08/6/07 (5)
- RE: differential driver is the more elegant - Dave Cigna 08:39:10 08/8/07 (2)
- Spice scares me....maybe too many dune novels...LOL - Russ57 16:18:53 08/8/07 (1)
- RE: Spice scares me....maybe too many dune novels...LOL - dave slagle 19:29:45 08/8/07 (0)
- Is It Possible? - FlaCharlie 10:34:11 08/7/07 (1)
- RE: Is It Possible? - Dave Cigna 09:03:19 08/8/07 (0)