In Reply to: The best way to use feedback posted by Ralph on January 19, 2022 at 12:50:03:
Most Negative FBK schemes impose a time-delayed signal
onto and mixed-in with the input signal that is going thru
the amplifier.What this means in sonic terms is what you hear--
the mixing-in with and the "mushing" (for want of a
better word) of your music being dumped into a blender
of sorts. You get a MESS-- sonically. Whether this is
harsher, brighter, or less defined and coherent, and maybe
milder and less offensive, but not at all the real music,
can depend on where and how it is applied.While I have built several kinds of SE amps, and love
them, most of my earlier days experience was with push-pulls.Since I operated, and serviced many a movie theatre,
I soon learned to trash the existing amps, and replace
them with Hi-Fi gear. These were nearly all of the brands
and types that people on this forum play with to this day.They all had loop-Negative FBK. I have never found any
P/P Neg-FBK amp that wasn't drastically improved by simple
unhooking the FBK loop. NOT ONE SINGLE CASE--EVER.Feedback schemes can correct for some things in a music
system-- I admit. What FBK schemes cannot do is playback
music or events in a convincing manner.-Dennis-
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- RE: The best way to use feedback - tube wrangler 01/22/2208:41:07 01/22/22 (62)
- clairty on a couple of issues - Ralph 12:31:42 01/24/22 (8)
- "all amplifiers are a form of filter and therefore obey filter theory" - cellailuca 08:50:22 01/28/22 (3)
- RE: "all amplifiers are a form of filter and therefore obey filter theory" - tube wrangler 19:04:22 01/28/22 (0)
- +1 - Ralph 09:52:30 01/28/22 (1)
- RE: +1 - cellailuca 10:22:06 01/28/22 (0)
- RE: clairty on a couple of issues - tube wrangler 14:18:41 01/24/22 (3)
- RE: clairty on a couple of issues - Ralph 15:06:30 01/24/22 (2)
- RE: clairty on a couple of issues - tube wrangler 18:20:07 01/24/22 (0)
- RE: clairty on a couple of issues - pictureguy 15:23:25 01/24/22 (0)
- RE: they won't listen ... - deathtube 667 08:02:31 01/24/22 (46)
- RE: they won't listen ... - rage 18:56:38 01/24/22 (1)
- RE: they won't listen ... - tube wrangler 22:24:39 01/24/22 (0)
- RE: they won't listen ... - Tre' 11:06:08 01/24/22 (43)
- RE: it's a good thing ... - deathtube 667 11:26:23 01/24/22 (42)
- RE: it's a good thing ... - Tre' 13:06:36 01/24/22 (41)
- RE: it's not about measured performance ... - deathtube 667 04:17:50 01/25/22 (40)
- RE: it's not about measured performance ... - PakProtector 10:10:52 01/26/22 (39)
- RE: another gross misrepresentation ... - deathtube 667 11:05:24 01/26/22 (38)
- RE: another gross misrepresentation ... - Tre' 16:45:54 01/26/22 (37)
- RE: they will never get it ... - deathtube 667 04:36:43 01/27/22 (36)
- RE: they will never get it ... - Tre' 06:28:38 01/27/22 (35)
- RE: dream world ... - deathtube 667 06:49:54 01/27/22 (34)
- RE: dream world ... - Tre' 10:01:31 01/27/22 (33)
- RE: it is true .. the facts speak for themselves - deathtube 667 11:45:17 01/27/22 (32)
- RE: it is true .. the facts speak for themselves - Tre' 19:39:01 01/27/22 (0)
- RE: it is true .. the facts speak for themselves - PakProtector 15:31:09 01/27/22 (30)
- RE: he is the "alpha" ... - deathtube 667 15:54:55 01/27/22 (29)
- RE: he is the "alpha" ... - Tre' 19:40:06 01/27/22 (9)
- RE: He's been banned ... - deathtube 667 04:13:25 01/28/22 (8)
- RE: He's been banned ... - GEO 05:00:32 01/28/22 (7)
- RE: need a reminder ... - deathtube 667 12:59:10 01/28/22 (6)
- "DT667 started a thread about AES PT-31 OPT's" - Tre' 11:09:56 01/29/22 (0)
- RE: need a reminder ... - GEO 08:17:12 01/29/22 (3)
- RE: need a reminder ... - Tre' 11:02:13 01/29/22 (1)
- RE: need a reminder ... - GEO 15:47:19 01/29/22 (0)
- RE: need a reminder ... - deathtube 667 09:38:26 01/29/22 (0)
- RE: need a reminder ... - PakProtector 03:58:46 01/29/22 (0)
- RE: he is the "alpha" ... - PakProtector 16:04:14 01/27/22 (18)
- RE: OK, Pak ... - deathtube 667 16:43:16 01/27/22 (17)
- RE: OK, Pak ... - tube wrangler 12:49:26 01/28/22 (15)
- RE: parallel SE 6005 ... - deathtube 667 15:38:48 01/28/22 (14)
- RE: parallel SE 6005 ... - PakProtector 14:22:27 01/29/22 (13)
- RE: forget it ... - deathtube 667 17:12:30 01/29/22 (12)
- RE: forget it ... - PakProtector 04:25:56 01/30/22 (11)
- RE: bingo ... - deathtube 667 06:49:58 01/30/22 (10)
- hmmmm.... - PakProtector 11:09:45 01/30/22 (9)
- RE: hmmmm.... - rage 06:24:35 01/31/22 (8)
- RE: go to the source, learn from the master builder DF ... - deathtube 667 07:20:46 01/31/22 (7)
- Why is that?.. - PakProtector 13:20:58 01/31/22 (0)
- RE: go to the source, learn from the master builder DF ... - rage 07:31:08 01/31/22 (5)
- RE: it's the truth ... - deathtube 667 07:53:10 01/31/22 (4)
- RE: it's the truth ... - Tre' 08:51:10 01/31/22 (3)
- RE: it's the truth ... - tube wrangler 09:25:39 02/1/22 (2)
- RE: it's the truth ... - Tre' 10:31:52 02/1/22 (0)
- HA! - PakProtector 09:59:15 02/1/22 (0)
- RE: OK, Pak ... - PakProtector 05:40:58 01/28/22 (0)
- RE: The best way to use feedback - Tre' 16:31:26 01/22/22 (5)
- RE: The best way to use feedback - tube wrangler 01:30:24 01/23/22 (4)
- RE: The best way to use feedback - PakProtector 15:24:29 01/23/22 (2)
- RE: understanding the "concepts" - deathtube 667 07:49:54 01/24/22 (1)
- let me tranlsate - PakProtector 10:16:18 01/26/22 (0)
- Good grief. nt - Tre' 07:47:34 01/23/22 (0)