What do ATC speakers do that is so wrong ?

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Topic - Do high-end speakers over do it? - jimbill 09:00:45 05/31/25 (129)

It's amazing how these threads evolve/devolve. - jimbill 17:51:37 06/10/25 (12)

Maybe it's the recording? - jedrider 09:34:43 06/13/25 (0)

Seems it's not uncommon... - peppy m. 10:23:38 06/11/25 (10)

RE: Seems it's not uncommon... - Presto 12:48:20 06/11/25 (9)

A midbass hump adds "warmth" and accentuates things like drum thwacks... - peppy m. 15:34:46 06/11/25 (8)

RE: A midbass hump adds "warmth" and accentuates things like drum thwacks... - Presto 16:31:46 06/11/25 (7)

Some older Wilsons and Magnepans had midbass humps. People seemed to liked it... - peppy m. 16:44:30 06/11/25 (6)

RE: Some older Wilsons and Magnepans had midbass humps. People seemed to liked it... - DrChaos 23:22:53 06/26/25 (0)

RE: Some older Wilsons and Magnepans had midbass humps. People seemed to liked it... - hahax@verizon.net 20:37:17 06/11/25 (4)

BBC designed pro mini monitors that way because of the tiny playback venues..... - peppy m. 06:04:49 07/2/25 (0)

RE: Some older Wilsons and Magnepans had midbass humps. People seemed to liked it... - Presto 11:18:04 06/12/25 (2)

RE: Some older Wilsons and Magnepans had midbass humps. People seemed to liked it... - hahax@verizon.net 20:36:36 06/12/25 (1)

RE: Some older Wilsons and Magnepans had midbass humps. People seemed to liked it... - Presto 12:40:49 06/14/25 (0)

"Correct" reproduction of live sound is pretty much a myth - Presto 13:43:34 06/5/25 (39)

RE: "Correct" reproduction of live sound is pretty much a myth in the home - tomservo 07:59:04 06/15/25 (0)

RE: "Correct" reproduction of live sound is pretty much a myth - Kirk57 13:09:48 06/6/25 (17)

RE: "Correct" reproduction of live sound is pretty much a myth - hahax@verizon.net 20:50:33 06/8/25 (5)

And he was an advocate of multichannel. (NT) - Kal Rubinson 07:33:57 06/9/25 (4)

RE: And he was an advocate of multichannel. (NT) - hahax@verizon.net 20:58:24 06/9/25 (1)

The goal has not changed. (NT) - Kal Rubinson 08:22:20 06/10/25 (0)

What kind ? - peppy m. 07:55:49 06/9/25 (1)

IIRC.............................. - Kal Rubinson 09:30:38 06/9/25 (0)

"The mics just aren't there." - Kal Rubinson 14:15:09 06/6/25 (10)

RE: "The mics just aren't there." - Kirk57 05:29:46 06/7/25 (9)

Don't move the mics...................... - Kal Rubinson 05:42:32 06/7/25 (8)

You have to Define "more mics" though... - Presto 15:54:26 06/10/25 (5)

Recording - Inmate51 08:20:56 06/11/25 (3)

RE: Recording - Kirk57 07:51:17 06/12/25 (1)

RE: Recording - Inmate51 13:47:26 06/12/25 (0)

RE: Recording - Presto 11:40:41 06/11/25 (0)

OK. It's just multichannel. - Kal Rubinson 07:28:59 06/11/25 (0)

Isn't it what Deutsche Gramophone is doing and nobody likes - Wojciech 09:35:12 06/8/25 (1)

RE: Isn't it what Deutsche Gramophone is doing and nobody likes - Kal Rubinson 12:47:05 06/8/25 (0)

Actually - E-Stat 18:18:39 06/5/25 (17)

Maybe... - Presto 16:52:18 06/8/25 (16)

RE: Maybe... - Inmate51 13:39:50 06/9/25 (5)

RE: Maybe... - Presto 16:00:19 06/10/25 (4)

Room Compensation - Inmate51 22:40:06 06/10/25 (3)

You are right but......................... - Kal Rubinson 07:21:20 06/11/25 (2)

RE: You are right but......................... - Inmate51 07:36:26 06/11/25 (1)

We have to remember what we're correcting - Presto 12:09:21 06/11/25 (0)

RE: Maybe... - E-Stat 17:35:34 06/8/25 (9)

RE: Maybe... - Presto 16:04:34 06/10/25 (8)

RE: Maybe... - E-Stat 16:07:44 06/10/25 (7)

RE: Maybe... - Presto 23:35:10 06/10/25 (6)

RE: Maybe... - E-Stat 06:17:45 06/11/25 (5)

RE: Maybe... - Presto 11:58:36 06/11/25 (4)

And yet - E-Stat 12:17:39 06/11/25 (3)

RE: And yet - Presto 12:22:25 06/11/25 (2)

RE: And yet - Inmate51 07:08:24 06/12/25 (1)

RE: And yet - Presto 11:24:24 06/12/25 (0)

Sometimes "liner notes" contain photos of the actual recording venue... - peppy m. 15:31:20 06/5/25 (1)

Love it when there is a photo of the sound stage!! - Presto 17:02:30 06/8/25 (0)

Some do, some don't. Additionally, there are rooms and recordings to consider... - peppy m. 09:36:04 06/3/25 (1)

RE: Some do, some don't. Additionally, there are rooms and recordings to consider... - Presto 16:09:25 06/10/25 (0)

RE: Do high-end speakers over do it? - hahax@verizon.net 19:52:46 06/1/25 (42)

RE: Do high-end speakers over do it? - Freo-1 18:42:34 06/5/25 (41)

ATC - a cake with a hole in the middle - Wojciech 20:07:42 06/5/25 (40)

RE: ATC - a cake with a hole in the middle - hahax@verizon.net 20:54:09 06/8/25 (8)

You take a dead corpse ears over your own ?. - Wojciech 06:11:32 06/9/25 (7)

RE: You take a dead corpse ears over your own ?. - hahax@verizon.net 20:46:34 06/10/25 (6)

Audio world would be a better place without Gordon Holt - Wojciech 07:46:23 06/11/25 (5)

RE: Audio world would be a better place without Gordon Holt - hahax@verizon.net 13:10:56 06/11/25 (4)

RE: Audio world would be a better place without Gordon Holt - Wojciech 15:24:01 06/11/25 (3)

RE: Audio world would be a better place without Gordon Holt - hahax@verizon.net 20:42:56 06/11/25 (2)

RE: Audio world would be a better place without Gordon Holt - Wojciech 06:37:11 06/12/25 (1)

RE: Audio world would be a better place without Gordon Holt - hahax@verizon.net 20:42:54 06/12/25 (0)

What do ATC speakers do that is so wrong ? - peppy m. 06/6/2502:55:13 06/6/25 (30)

RE: What do ATC speakers do that is so wrong ? - tomservo 13:27:29 06/6/25 (9)

I measured a pair a few years ago, - Inmate51 19:01:12 06/6/25 (7)

RE: I measured a pair a few years ago, - tomservo 05:12:54 06/7/25 (6)

RE: I measured a pair a few years ago, - Inmate51 14:28:34 06/7/25 (5)

RE: I measured a pair a few years ago, - tomservo 11:56:38 06/8/25 (1)

RE: I measured a pair a few years ago, - Inmate51 13:04:24 06/8/25 (0)

RE: I measured a pair a few years ago, - Inmate51 07:54:55 06/8/25 (2)

Even a blind hen can find a grain of rice - Wojciech 15:02:24 06/8/25 (1)

You've seen this ? - peppy m. 16:55:38 06/11/25 (0)

ATC SCM-19 GR Research review w/ measurements - peppy m. 13:54:29 06/6/25 (0)

They do nothing wrong. It's an engineering tool for music production - Wojciech 04:47:55 06/6/25 (19)

RE: They do nothing wrong. It's an engineering tool for music production - hahax@verizon.net 20:49:39 06/10/25 (0)

Absolute Nonsense - Freo-1 05:40:47 06/6/25 (9)

Only Partial :) - Wojciech 20:35:14 06/6/25 (8)

Is there a certain type of frequency response you associate with "entertaining" speakers ? - peppy m. 05:45:44 06/7/25 (7)

Jagged , ragged and not sounding " high end " - Wojciech 06:09:24 06/7/25 (6)

RE: Jagged , ragged and not sounding " high end " - hahax@verizon.net 13:12:52 06/11/25 (2)

RE: Jagged , ragged and not sounding " high end " - Wojciech 15:30:48 06/11/25 (1)

RE: Jagged , ragged and not sounding " high end " - hahax@verizon.net 20:47:37 06/11/25 (0)

Ah, the "anti-establishment" sound ? (nt - peppy m. 11:50:53 06/7/25 (2)

Oh I'm very pro establishment - Wojciech 14:13:45 06/7/25 (1)

Whether a man quit or was fired... - Presto 20:13:49 06/15/25 (0)

Hmmmmm... - peppy m. 05:32:03 06/6/25 (7)

Correct, We are born to suffer and just die - Wojciech 06:30:14 06/6/25 (5)

RE: Correct, We are born to suffer and just die - Kirk57 06:51:05 06/6/25 (3)

Not a member of Academia? - Wojciech 07:06:25 06/6/25 (2)

RE: Not a member of Academia? - Kirk57 08:09:58 06/6/25 (1)

RE: Not a member of Academia? - Wojciech 08:37:37 06/6/25 (0)

And yet - occasionally - slivers of light penetrate the gloom of our musty, dank cubicles... - peppy m. 06:38:42 06/6/25 (0)

RE: Hmmmmm... - Freo-1 05:42:10 06/6/25 (0)

RE: Do high-end speakers over do it? - tomservo 11:12:36 06/1/25 (0)

A serious question - M3 lover 09:11:17 06/1/25 (20)

Bunk - Ozzie 08:28:05 06/2/25 (19)

You're really missing the point - E-Stat 16:54:00 06/2/25 (14)

Not really - Ozzie 17:29:56 06/2/25 (13)

Enjoy the show instead - E-Stat 17:33:51 06/2/25 (12)

RE: Enjoy the show instead - Ozzie 19:19:42 06/2/25 (11)

I've also had the joy of hearing - E-Stat 05:01:33 06/3/25 (10)

RE: I've also had the joy of hearing - Ozzie 07:36:29 06/3/25 (9)

Sorry - E-Stat 07:58:51 06/3/25 (8)

RE: Sorry - Ozzie 08:06:45 06/3/25 (7)

RE: Sorry - Ozzie 16:41:18 06/5/25 (1)

More empty BS! - E-Stat 17:22:44 06/5/25 (0)

Smart people - E-Stat 16:37:56 06/5/25 (4)

You are so witty - Ozzie 17:03:22 06/5/25 (3)

Such childish and empty postering - E-Stat 17:18:21 06/5/25 (2)

Hmm - Ozzie 17:38:31 06/5/25 (1)

Fine - E-Stat 17:57:28 06/5/25 (0)

Absolute sound - M3 lover 09:14:53 06/2/25 (3)

RE: Absolute sound - Ozzie 10:43:48 06/2/25 (2)

More information. - Tre' 14:58:09 06/2/25 (0)

RE: Absolute sound - Tre' 14:38:34 06/2/25 (0)

RE: Do high-end speakers over do it? - Inmate51 16:16:58 05/31/25 (0)

Seems more like - E-Stat 14:30:33 05/31/25 (0)

My personal take on it is... - saintjean 11:31:13 05/31/25 (6)

Indicator - tlea 14:05:02 06/1/25 (2)

+1! That has always been my goal to. Some speakers just fall flat at lower volumes - alaskahiatt 16:08:44 06/1/25 (1)

RE: +1! That has always been my goal to. Some speakers just fall flat at lower volumes - tomservo 10:11:59 06/7/25 (0)

RE: My personal take on it is... - hahax@verizon.net 21:13:56 05/31/25 (1)

I agree - saintjean 06:19:24 06/1/25 (0)

RE: My personal take on it is... - Gary 14:52:07 05/31/25 (0)

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What do ATC speakers do that is so wrong ? - peppy m. 06/6/2502:55:13 06/6/25 (30)

RE: What do ATC speakers do that is so wrong ? - tomservo 13:27:29 06/6/25 (9)

I measured a pair a few years ago, - Inmate51 19:01:12 06/6/25 (7)

RE: I measured a pair a few years ago, - tomservo 05:12:54 06/7/25 (6)

RE: I measured a pair a few years ago, - Inmate51 14:28:34 06/7/25 (5)

RE: I measured a pair a few years ago, - tomservo 11:56:38 06/8/25 (1)

RE: I measured a pair a few years ago, - Inmate51 13:04:24 06/8/25 (0)

RE: I measured a pair a few years ago, - Inmate51 07:54:55 06/8/25 (2)

Even a blind hen can find a grain of rice - Wojciech 15:02:24 06/8/25 (1)

You've seen this ? - peppy m. 16:55:38 06/11/25 (0)

ATC SCM-19 GR Research review w/ measurements - peppy m. 13:54:29 06/6/25 (0)

They do nothing wrong. It's an engineering tool for music production - Wojciech 04:47:55 06/6/25 (19)

RE: They do nothing wrong. It's an engineering tool for music production - hahax@verizon.net 20:49:39 06/10/25 (0)

Absolute Nonsense - Freo-1 05:40:47 06/6/25 (9)

Only Partial :) - Wojciech 20:35:14 06/6/25 (8)

Is there a certain type of frequency response you associate with "entertaining" speakers ? - peppy m. 05:45:44 06/7/25 (7)

Jagged , ragged and not sounding " high end " - Wojciech 06:09:24 06/7/25 (6)

RE: Jagged , ragged and not sounding " high end " - hahax@verizon.net 13:12:52 06/11/25 (2)

RE: Jagged , ragged and not sounding " high end " - Wojciech 15:30:48 06/11/25 (1)

RE: Jagged , ragged and not sounding " high end " - hahax@verizon.net 20:47:37 06/11/25 (0)

Ah, the "anti-establishment" sound ? (nt - peppy m. 11:50:53 06/7/25 (2)

Oh I'm very pro establishment - Wojciech 14:13:45 06/7/25 (1)

Whether a man quit or was fired... - Presto 20:13:49 06/15/25 (0)

Hmmmmm... - peppy m. 05:32:03 06/6/25 (7)

Correct, We are born to suffer and just die - Wojciech 06:30:14 06/6/25 (5)

RE: Correct, We are born to suffer and just die - Kirk57 06:51:05 06/6/25 (3)

Not a member of Academia? - Wojciech 07:06:25 06/6/25 (2)

RE: Not a member of Academia? - Kirk57 08:09:58 06/6/25 (1)

RE: Not a member of Academia? - Wojciech 08:37:37 06/6/25 (0)

And yet - occasionally - slivers of light penetrate the gloom of our musty, dank cubicles... - peppy m. 06:38:42 06/6/25 (0)

RE: Hmmmmm... - Freo-1 05:42:10 06/6/25 (0)

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