In Reply to: Do high-end speakers over do it? posted by jimbill on May 31, 2025 at 09:00:45:
It was an age-old belief that the speaker is where most distortion and change occurs with respect to re-creating live recordings. I disagree. I think the recording itself does as much or more "damage" than any reasonably competent speaker and room combo. I hear people review speakers and cite "The individual instruments were in the correct locations on the soundstage." There is no correct/incorrect answer here - this is audiophile mythology.The closest one will get to "correct" with regard to space and time is a binaural recording done with a dummy head and head related transfer function (HRTF) equalization. And despite this likely being closest to some ideal for preservation of time, reflections, and reverberation times, nobody does it. Why? It has it's own set of problems and limitations - the first being (a) it's a recording process almost never used and (b) it requires a specialized system to play it back.
There is no "correct" recreation of a live event because the recording itself is already wrong. All we're left with is getting a room and speaker setup that does the least damage and gives a sense of being there.
Take a great speaker / room combo and replace it with an average speaker / room combo and guess what - you'll immediately understsand that 90% of that experience was already there (or not there) within the recording. I think the least damage for orchestral recordings w.r.t. "space and time" comes from a simple 2-mic over-head recording, but this is a far cry from the effect you get from an elaborate multi-mic sound stage. Some might prefer the former, others the latter.
Take a day to compare recordings and forget about speakers and it's an eye-opening experience.
And all this said, some of my favorite recordings have almost nothing to do with some idea of "proper" sound-staging. Sometimes, some intentional phase-distortion madness putting things behind your right ear can be fun.
Unholy, but fun.
That's my twenty-two cents.
Cheers,
Presto
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Follow Ups
- "Correct" reproduction of live sound is pretty much a myth - Presto 06/5/2513:43:34 06/5/25 (39)
- RE: "Correct" reproduction of live sound is pretty much a myth in the home - tomservo 07:59:04 06/15/25 (0)
- RE: "Correct" reproduction of live sound is pretty much a myth - Kirk57 13:09:48 06/6/25 (17)
- RE: "Correct" reproduction of live sound is pretty much a myth - hahax@verizon.net 20:50:33 06/8/25 (5)
- And he was an advocate of multichannel. (NT) - Kal Rubinson 07:33:57 06/9/25 (4)
- RE: And he was an advocate of multichannel. (NT) - hahax@verizon.net 20:58:24 06/9/25 (1)
- The goal has not changed. (NT) - Kal Rubinson 08:22:20 06/10/25 (0)
- What kind ? - peppy m. 07:55:49 06/9/25 (1)
- IIRC.............................. - Kal Rubinson 09:30:38 06/9/25 (0)
- "The mics just aren't there." - Kal Rubinson 14:15:09 06/6/25 (10)
- RE: "The mics just aren't there." - Kirk57 05:29:46 06/7/25 (9)
- Don't move the mics...................... - Kal Rubinson 05:42:32 06/7/25 (8)
- You have to Define "more mics" though... - Presto 15:54:26 06/10/25 (5)
- Recording - Inmate51 08:20:56 06/11/25 (3)
- RE: Recording - Kirk57 07:51:17 06/12/25 (1)
- RE: Recording - Inmate51 13:47:26 06/12/25 (0)
- RE: Recording - Presto 11:40:41 06/11/25 (0)
- OK. It's just multichannel. - Kal Rubinson 07:28:59 06/11/25 (0)
- Isn't it what Deutsche Gramophone is doing and nobody likes - Wojciech 09:35:12 06/8/25 (1)
- RE: Isn't it what Deutsche Gramophone is doing and nobody likes - Kal Rubinson 12:47:05 06/8/25 (0)
- Actually - E-Stat 18:18:39 06/5/25 (17)
- Maybe... - Presto 16:52:18 06/8/25 (16)
- RE: Maybe... - Inmate51 13:39:50 06/9/25 (5)
- RE: Maybe... - Presto 16:00:19 06/10/25 (4)
- Room Compensation - Inmate51 22:40:06 06/10/25 (3)
- You are right but......................... - Kal Rubinson 07:21:20 06/11/25 (2)
- RE: You are right but......................... - Inmate51 07:36:26 06/11/25 (1)
- We have to remember what we're correcting - Presto 12:09:21 06/11/25 (0)
- RE: Maybe... - E-Stat 17:35:34 06/8/25 (9)
- RE: Maybe... - Presto 16:04:34 06/10/25 (8)
- RE: Maybe... - E-Stat 16:07:44 06/10/25 (7)
- RE: Maybe... - Presto 23:35:10 06/10/25 (6)
- RE: Maybe... - E-Stat 06:17:45 06/11/25 (5)
- RE: Maybe... - Presto 11:58:36 06/11/25 (4)
- And yet - E-Stat 12:17:39 06/11/25 (3)
- RE: And yet - Presto 12:22:25 06/11/25 (2)
- RE: And yet - Inmate51 07:08:24 06/12/25 (1)
- RE: And yet - Presto 11:24:24 06/12/25 (0)
- Sometimes "liner notes" contain photos of the actual recording venue... - peppy m. 15:31:20 06/5/25 (1)
- Love it when there is a photo of the sound stage!! - Presto 17:02:30 06/8/25 (0)