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In Reply to: RE: ATC50A Active Speaker posted by Brad from ATC USA on April 2, 2024 at 13:40:24:
Hi Brad
> I think the error in this statement is that once it the warts are exposed, and fixed, it is no longer there to be found. If its done correctly you no longer hear flaws or errors. It isnt like the recording engineer hears an error and leaves it in for you to find.
Yes, the engineer needs to hear the "warts and all" and hopefully most can be fixed. For this he needs speakers that, maybe don't emphasise them, but certainly don't hide them. The fact remains that some recordings end up better than others and this may well be more down to the orchestra or band than the engineer's efforts to make the best of the raw recordings he starts with. After all his good work is done, his masters are sent to the streaming and pressing houses with as good sound as is possible.
> If home speakers makes bad recordings sound good, that means its changing something, not "repairing something". This is the crux of the matter: you cannot make a certain mix sound "better" on certain kinds of speakers without it also changing mixes that were not flawed, that were exactly what the artist intended.
No speaker can make a poor recording sound great, but there are big differences in the "presentation" of a particular piece of music if reproduced by for example, electrostatics, horns, open baffles, or omnis. Studio speakers are as you say designed to be as accurate and unembellished as possible, whereas domestic speakers are not so restrained.
Studio speakers need to be as accurate as possible, but are not designed to give the engineer a severe dose of goosebumps! However, that's just what most domestic listeners want, and some speakers achieve this far better than others. Perhaps they have a bit of distortion that studio speakers mustn't have, but then so do some amps such as SETs that are often welcomed in the home but never in the studio.
These characteristics that are "allowed" to exist in domestic speakers (and amps), but are forbidden in studio speakers, will give a wide range of different presentation of a particular recording and we (the Great Unwashed buying public) can choose speakers that suit our individual preferences and that best suit our poorly prepared (compared with studios) listening rooms.
As I say, I'd love to compare my speakers with the ATC 200 as they have much in common on paper - both use twin 12" bass drivers, have top quality mid and top drivers, but there are also massive differences including sensitivity. My speakers at 107 dB require cones to move a fraction of the distance to deliver a chosen volume, while the drivers in your typically mid-80s dB speakers require much more movement and many more watts to generate this greater movement. They will sound very different and the engineer will choose ATC, whereas I will probably choose the less accurate and perhaps more colourful Avantgarde as it will offer bigger goosebumps. It may sound more like the singer is sitting on my equipment rack and singing just for me! That's really what I missed with my Active 50s and love about the AGs.
So horses for courses as I see it. Peter
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- RE: ATC50A Active Speaker - cawson@onetel.com 04/3/2409:50:12 04/3/24 (1)
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