Re: Moondog capped Milkman Dan like tallboy of Colt 45 Malt! The STORY!

Posted by MQracing on December 14, 2000 at 23:33:26

In Reply to: Moondog capped Milkman Dan like tallboy of Colt 45 Malt! The STORY! posted by mobile homeless on December 14, 2000 at 21:25:05:

kh writes:

> The musicality of that original exposure just took me to another > dimension, a dimension I have been trying to picture ever since. The > music floated, swirled, and was so palpable and alive, I just > couldnt believe it. The strange 8 watt amps were doing things I had > never heard before but at a live performance.

Agreed, there's nothing like the first time!!! I used to tell small amp manufacturer's to find a "virgin" reviewer to audition and write about their single ended amps. assuming the reviewer did not have speakers from hell... a rave was almost guarnteed. The first is always the best or, at least, most memorable.

> Well, I finally was in the position to get a SET amp after all these > years. I have had a number of PP amps cycle through, from other Cary > gear to ASUSA, Jolida, and my favorite, the EICO HF-81 (the EICO > walked all over the others).

Not surprised. Do the HF-81's use the Acrosound outputs or the Freed outputs?

> What is missing? Well, they have damn good bass for a SET amp. What > is missing is the typical things you EXPECT in a fine set amp, > namely the things I mentioned above. It just doesnt sound as > transparent and seperated as it should.

Outputs are only one part of the schema. There are a good, good number of variables and parameters (at least 437 in an amp) that go into making an amp sound good. So, you might want to experiment a bit more. Try different coupling caps for instance. Try weird things... like different interconnects. It all gets so complicated... heh... milkman?

> I am using a Creek passive and a modified Cary SLP-70 for preamp > duties. Source is a Rega Planet and Linn LP-12/Basik Plus/Bluepoint.

When the bossman gives you a big christmas bonus.. check out the Ittok arm for your LP12. To this day I still adore the LP12 table. Nice stuff.

> I was wanting great separation between instuments and it seems more > homogenized than it should. The sound has a slightly unfocused bent > to it that is troubling.

Power supply issues????????????? Don't know.

> I know speaker matching is essential with SETs and that the 8 watt > Carys (which were played through these speakers) are a far cry from > the 3.5 watt Moondogs. But I think I should be getting better sound > from this combo... I dont think this is all matching here but know > it has something to do with it.

What I have heard through the grapevine is that Proacs are pretty SE friendly speaks. If you live near Philly give me a call... maybe I could loan you a pair of speaks to try out. Is there any other inmates near you or other friends who might have different speakers you could try out with your amps?

> I dont dare put on the Pussy Galore or Butthole Surfers....

Why are we talking about pussy and buttholes? Isn't this a g rated family entertainment channel?

> > ...Lord...not Ebay again....

in my earlier days you just wouldn't believe how much of my equipment found new homes through the pages of audiomart. You now have a larger market to participate in. Think of it as your tuition to progressively getting better and better sound.

again, don't get bummed... enjoy... experiment... give me a call if your close to Philly.

Mike

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Topic - 2A3 amp makes Milkman Dan want to kill his own Offspring - mobile homeless 19:18:08 12/14/00 (37)

Re: 2A3 amp makes Milkman Dan want to kill his own Offspring - JIMMY 07:27:59 12/25/00 (0)

try carbon comps in signal path - maldar 09:28:54 12/17/00 (0)

Milkman Dan should sell his own Offspring instead and bought an Ongaku! - Jeff Lessard 10:08:30 12/16/00 (1)

Re: Fixed Bias amps really do sound more detailed then Cathode Bias? - mobile homeless 08:24:44 12/18/00 (0)

Try a pair of Coincident Triumph Signatures and a modest priced powerd sub. - Dave VH 17:01:17 12/15/00 (0)

Re: 2A3 amp makes Milkman Dan want to kill his own Offspring - mikes 16:34:13 12/15/00 (0)

Try Meshplates and Horns!!! (nt) - Mike Bates 15:10:32 12/15/00 (4)

You Know People... - Jack G 15:31:50 12/15/00 (3)

Sure Jack. - Mike Bates 15:39:43 12/15/00 (2)

Yup. - Jack G 16:26:25 12/15/00 (1)

Re: Yup. - Les Lammers 17:34:14 12/15/00 (0)

Re: 2A3 amp makes Milkman Dan want to kill his own Offspring - Andrew 09:39:29 12/15/00 (0)

Re: 2A3 amp makes Milkman Dan want to kill his own Offspring - Dave 09:28:16 12/15/00 (0)

Run the Sovtek 2A3 at 45 operating points. - FM 07:42:06 12/15/00 (2)

Re: Run the Sovtek 2A3 at 45 operating points. - Jeff Day 08:52:29 12/15/00 (1)

Re: Run the Sovtek 2A3 at 45 operating points. - FM 09:24:26 12/15/00 (0)

Re: 2A3 amp makes Milkman Dan want to kill his own Offspring - JayD 05:36:37 12/15/00 (0)

Re: 2A3 amp v. Original Cary 300SE magic - Les Lammers 04:00:01 12/15/00 (0)

*sigh* - Jack G 03:53:26 12/15/00 (0)

Key of R,ra - Owen 03:05:44 12/15/00 (0)

Re: 2A3 amp makes Milkman Dan want to kill his own Offspring - jrg 23:17:54 12/14/00 (0)

don't give up -- build some speaks - nl 20:57:31 12/14/00 (1)

That's the way. Aha aha. I like it... - PÃ¤r 23:39:10 12/14/00 (0)

Re: 2A3 amp makes Milkman Dan want to kill his own Offspring - MQracing 19:37:15 12/14/00 (13)

Moondog capped Milkman Dan like tallboy of Colt 45 Malt! The STORY! - mobile homeless 21:25:05 12/14/00 (2)

Re: Moondog capped Milkman Dan like tallboy of Colt 45 Malt! The STORY! - rockdoc 11:52:40 12/15/00 (0)

Re: Moondog capped Milkman Dan like tallboy of Colt 45 Malt! The STORY! - MQracing 12/14/0023:33:26 12/14/00 (0)

Re: 2A3 amp makes Milkman Dan want to kill his own Offspring - Vince 19:49:29 12/14/00 (8)

Could it really be the "milkman's" amp <g> - MQracing 23:05:52 12/14/00 (7)

So I guess your not a fan of the Sun Audio 6V6 SE anymore?(n/t) - FM 09:31:17 12/15/00 (2)

Re: So I guess your not a fan of the Sun Audio 6V6 SE anymore?(n/t) - MQracing 10:54:40 12/15/00 (1)

That be a beam tetrode amp, though, Driver 8! [nt] - J Epstein 12:59:29 12/15/00 (0)

Re: Could it really be the "milkman's" amp <g> - Vince Rhea 05:52:39 12/15/00 (1)

91... Good choice! - Jeff Lessard 07:11:57 12/15/00 (0)

Re: Could it really be the "milkman's" amp <g> - FM 05:26:40 12/15/00 (1)

Re: Could it really be the "milkman's" amp <g> - -Steve 09:11:18 12/16/00 (0)

Re: 2A3 amp makes Milkman Dan want to kill his own Offspring - mikem 19:29:21 12/14/00 (0)

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