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What matters most

Posted by Joe II-K on June 14, 2000 at 10:26:27

In Reply to: Re: Why does less output mirror better sound? posted by Thorsten on June 14, 2000 at 04:45:03:

is enjoyment of the music. If the music is not enjoyable, what does anything else matter?

We're not going to agree on this. I think the 845, as used in my amp, has greater dynamics, faster transient response, better bass, more extended and cleaner treble and flatter and truer frequency response and better image focus and soundstage than low power SETs I've heaed.

We might as well argue about what the best shade of Green is :-).

I think different output tubes do some things well, other things less well. There is no ideal tube. no ideal amp, no ideal speaker. You just have to try and choose the one that suits your tastes best and will drive your speakers of choice.

> > > note - this is NOT the integrated version with that f&%$ing Op-Amp
> > > Silicon Volume control).
> >
> > There you go with your generalizations and silly biases again!
>
> Again, I heard of them side by side. The dgradation of sound in
> the "integrated" Version was apalling.

I'm at a loss to explain what you heard, except that if the amp had the standard issue Yugo POS 12AX7s, then it will sound less than stellar. Or it wasn't properly broken in. Did you try it with NOS 12AX7s or 5751s? There is a big improvement. Anyway, that's not how I heard it, or how I hear it. I have learned with all gear that I need to listen to it extensively for at least 2 weeks after proper break-in before coming to any conclusion. I find short term and dealer demos in foreign systems to be worse than useless.

> And I have had the Chance to hear the Ongaku and Baransu side by
> side driving Wilson Audio Watt3/Puppy2.... There was no comparison.
> On all but poer the Baransu was streets ahead.

Just goes to show, there are no certainties in life :-).

-Joe.

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