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Engineers and personal communications.

Posted by Dave VH on May 30, 2001 at 12:37:06

In Reply to: Re: The propoganda highway is 2 lane (extra wide on your side it seems) posted by Steve on May 30, 2001 at 11:43:17:

It's not what you say, but how you say it.

Engineers, in general, do not have a great reputation for personal and effective communication. The non-technical world runs more on emotions and opinions than facts. This frustrates many logical people like scientists and engineers, and is why so few of them make good salesmen. I know this because I worked as a lab technician in high-tech and biomedical industries and as a "Sales Engineer" in aerospace and computers for many years. In sales I had to sound logical and use emotional sales methods subtly. I quickly learned that simple logic did not close many sales, and that many of the best sales engineers were the least technical.

Like Audiophilander, you seem to have a nack for making people angry toward you. You may be correct about many things, but your negative attitude seems to draw even more negative reactions. It will be interesting to discuss these personality conflicts with other tube fanatics (and many SET fanatics) at the VSAC tube audio conference in September.

I don't believe Asylum regular Jeff Day is lying he says that his 45 Wavelength amp has hum that is nearly inaudible through his 100dB+ sensitive Avantgarde horns. I wonder why his experience is so much different that that of the Stereophile crew. It could be partly because Jeff did carefully assemble a synergistic system over time, and Stereophile tried to plug the amp into and existing system and room, which no serious SET fanatic would do.

I sense anger and frustration in many of your posts, and you've got a long ways to go before people stop snapping back at you. I enjoy your logical/technical posts, but when your emotional reactions to the popularity of SET's, especially from Gordon (similar SET designs in various price ranges are also made by Ron Welborne, George Wright and others).

BTW, I have a Chinese Kailin EL84 PP amp that is dead quiet, a KT88 SE amp that is very quiet, and an Italian (Tektron) 2A3 amp that has significant hum that I haven't had time to work on. I still am fascinated by SET's for some unknown, illogical reason, and feel no compulsion to desert them. This is highly illogical, but I'm not into music and audio for logical reasons.

It's your attitude, snide remarks and your inability to initiate civil discourse about your dislike of DH pure-triode SET amps in general, and Gordon Rankin that upsets me.

Also, you should be aware that Asylum moderators do not delete any post when archiving, and ANY of the rare deletions are done only after careful and deliberate consideration when the rules are violated (except for "for sale", "WTB" and flagrant personal attacks). If you have questions as to why any particular post was deleted, ask privately (via the "Comment" link below) or publically in a post. There is no hidden agenda here. You have always had the opportunity to build and maintain your on-line reputation. What people think of you, and how they react to you is almost always due to the character of your on-line persona. And only you can control that.

I think that you probably have excellent amps, although they are more utilitarian and homely than even George Wright's. Yet George thrives as a favorite, inspite of complaints about poor response to requests. Of course, he doesn't come here and offer himself up for flogging, but that's probably because he is not an internet type, and doesn't have time.

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