In Reply to: Still, a better way to protect the gullible audiophile,.. posted by Bambi B on January 28, 2009 at 17:15:32:
Bambi,
I only partially agree with your first paragraph. While I fully well understand as people we can be seduced by suggestion. I don't believe we, as people are as easily seduced by suggestion as many other people here on AA would have us believe. The problem as I see it is, there are three main POVs on this present topic. One POV comes from those here who automatically assume a device or tweak is "faith-based" if they cannot find a scientific reason why the tweak or device should work. Another POV comes from others who are more like myself i.e., while skeptical of some tweaks and devices, remain open-minded enough to consider the possibility that science hasn't sufficiently tested or discovered the reasons why the device or tweak works and finally the last POV are those who accept the tweak or device works as stated.
There's no danger in producing a product that is simultaneously being debunked. Only those who automatically assume the tweak or device is a "faith-based" device could believe the others could/would, have a break in their bubble of faith when others claim the product is faith-based". I don't think we can almost guarantee there would be no perceived effect on those who believe differently! For those like myself, who believe it possible science hasn't sufficiently tested or discovered the reasons why the device or tweak works were almost like an agnostic in religon. We believe it may or may not work so we have no "faith-based" bubble to break and with the last POV who accept the tweak or device works as stated, it's just like with religon. No matter how much non-believers, tell believers there is no GOD but, rather they're being seduced by the suggestion of GOD, the believers don't lose or have a break in their bubble of faith! So I don't agree with your position we can almost guarantee there would be no perceived effect on those who believe differently.
Where we totally disagree is with your statement that a better course of "protecting" the gullible audiophile from dubious devices would be for "Stereophile" to make methodical tests- double blind, perhaps with control groups of non-reviewers, and present the results. There's just to much wrong with how most if not almost all DBTs are done for most anyone but their present proponents to accept the results of.
Like every DBT vs Non-DBT, Objectivist vs Subjectivist etc arguements that are had here on AA. I don't see anyway for a meeting of the minds, without a lot of compromise on both sides. That said the beliefs of both sides are so strong that to even think this compromise could ever happen would be akin to believing atheists & theists could compromise their beliefs and meet in the middle as well.
Thetubeguy1954
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