In Reply to: RE: Tubeguy! You might have a contestant!!!! posted by theaudiohobby on April 25, 2008 at 09:40:11:
> No, we simply ask for a scientifically valid experiment and audiophile sighted listening experiences is not one of them. <
Please provide an example of what you would consider a scientifically valid experiment that is not a DBT. If you have some, I'm honestly interested.
> the only problem is that you are here on PHP attempting to claim that your personal experience somehow adversely impinges on the science/engineering which it clearly does not. <
Why not? If LCR characteristics are all there is to cables, why do some of them sound different? I've tested this. Blind. Just not double blind.
> claim amongst other things that controlled tests are not sensitive enough <
To the best of my recollection, I've never made such a claim. They may be perfectly sensitive enough. The problem is that no one knows for sure.
> and uncontrolled sighted listening test are superior data points, <
Superior? Again, I've never said that. I have said that at some point, they are all that's necessary. But not superior. The tests I think are superior are long term single blind tests. I have yet to insert a cable and find it different sounding immediately. It takes some time. The problem with my current testing method may be that I don't allow enough time during the testing phase... mostly because I don't want it to control my listening for pleasure.
Wasn't it you that chastised me for strawmen? It seems you've created quite a few yourself! :)
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- RE: Tubeguy! You might have a contestant!!!! - kerr 04/25/0810:47:14 04/25/08 (41)
- RE: Tubeguy! You might have a contestant!!!! - theaudiohobby 11:32:17 04/25/08 (40)
- RE: Tubeguy! You might have a contestant!!!! - kerr 13:01:41 04/25/08 (39)
- Long-term DBT example - andy_c 17:52:32 04/25/08 (23)
- RE: Long-term DBT example - rick_m 18:17:53 04/25/08 (22)
- RE: Long-term DBT example - andy_c 18:35:48 04/25/08 (21)
- RE: Long-term DBT example - rick_m 13:32:19 04/26/08 (19)
- RE: Long-term DBT example - andy_c 14:41:26 04/26/08 (18)
- RE: Long-term DBT example - morricab 04:01:33 04/28/08 (12)
- RE: Long-term DBT example - andy_c 08:54:48 04/28/08 (11)
- RE: Long-term DBT example - morricab 04:13:50 04/29/08 (1)
- RE: Long-term DBT example - andy_c 07:44:10 04/30/08 (0)
- RE: Long-term DBT example - rick_m 14:22:42 04/28/08 (8)
- RE: Long-term DBT example - andy_c 15:33:25 04/28/08 (7)
- RE: Long-term DBT example - rick_m 18:11:43 04/28/08 (6)
- Aargh!!! This is going off the page to the right!!! :-) - andy_c 21:02:07 04/28/08 (5)
- RE: Aargh!!! This is going off the page to the right!!! :-) - rick_m 22:21:38 04/28/08 (4)
- RE: Aargh!!! This is going off the page to the right!!! :-) - morricab 04:22:52 04/29/08 (3)
- RE: Aargh!!! This is going off the page to the right!!! :-) - rick_m 09:51:50 04/29/08 (2)
- RE: Aargh!!! This is going off the page to the right!!! :-) - andy_c 11:23:55 04/29/08 (1)
- Great! Thanks Andy. -nt - rick_m 11:39:48 04/29/08 (0)
- RE: Long-term DBT example - rick_m 16:25:48 04/26/08 (4)
- RE: Long-term DBT example - andy_c 17:39:05 04/26/08 (3)
- RE: Long-term DBT example - rick_m 21:30:19 04/26/08 (2)
- RE: Long-term DBT example - AJinFLA 18:19:48 04/27/08 (1)
- RE: Long-term DBT example - rick_m 19:57:25 04/27/08 (0)
- Hey, thanks! - rick_m 19:01:45 04/25/08 (0)
- RE: Tubeguy! You might have a contestant!!!! - theaudiohobby 13:25:09 04/25/08 (14)
- RE: Tubeguy! You might have a contestant!!!! - kerr 13:38:15 04/25/08 (13)
- RE: Tubeguy! You might have a contestant!!!! - theaudiohobby 13:53:34 04/25/08 (12)
- RE: Tubeguy! You might have a contestant!!!! - kerr 20:17:32 04/25/08 (11)
- RE: Tubeguy! You might have a contestant!!!! - theaudiohobby 12:55:44 04/26/08 (10)
- Logic - kerr 14:40:05 04/26/08 (9)
- RE: Faulty Logic - theaudiohobby 16:53:18 04/26/08 (8)
- RE: Faulty Logic indeed - kerr 17:26:39 04/26/08 (7)
- RE: Yep, Faulty Logic - theaudiohobby 23:24:40 04/26/08 (6)
- RE: Yep, Faulty Logic - Tony Lauck 08:57:51 04/27/08 (3)
- RE: Yep, Faulty Logic - theaudiohobby 09:29:50 04/27/08 (2)
- Yes, a poor test is a poor test. - Tony Lauck 10:05:17 04/27/08 (1)
- RE: Yes, a poor test is a poor test. - andy_c 10:31:10 04/27/08 (0)
- Insufficient and continued faulty logic. Anything else? (nt) - kerr 07:48:12 04/27/08 (1)
- RE: Yeah right.... - theaudiohobby 09:03:07 04/27/08 (0)