In Reply to: RE: That clears up a lot! posted by EBradMeyer on September 21, 2007 at 21:24:25:
...there's an immense body of uncontradicted evidence -- just read the hundreds of posts on Prophead and other AA boards -- that CD-Rs made from Redbook CDs sound quite a lot better. That raises the vexing issue, Which is the real CD?
Also, if one reads the literature, it appears that various CD players produce vastly different sounds. Which one is real?
Then we have the Memory Player (or equivalent, if any), which reinterprets the data off a Redbook CD and produces a sonic result (according to all reviewers thus far) superior to any other, even to the CD-R remakes.
So, again, which of those is the CD that "would have sounded the same"?
Even more to the point, which of the above does the aforesaid "bottleneck" sound like? Isn't that worth our knowing?
Had you not yielded to the temptation of "quick and easy comparisons", the above questions might have been addressed.
And then: "I realize you may still believe that the disc itself changes the sound, on the basis of your own unsupported perception." Again, even a casual perusal of these boards, or almost any audio forum, will show that I am hardly alone in my "perception", rather I have been joined by thousands.
"Anecdotal", you say? But what's the plural of "anecdote"? Data!
The rest -- "You always refuse such requests (skepticism is so unbecoming in one's acolytes, isn't it?), so there seems no point in discussing it." -- is beneath you, so I won't touch it except to explain to other readers that no "such requests" have been received at my place.
clark
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Follow Ups
- "A CD would have sounded the same." Good to know, but bland assertions are not proof. Besides... - clarkjohnsen 09/22/0708:42:46 09/22/07 (32)
- RE: "Memory Player that produces a sonic result superior to any other" - tlyyra 08:49:21 09/24/07 (0)
- RE: That clears up a lot! - EBradMeyer 07:01:54 09/23/07 (19)
- "I give you The Church of the Latter Day Saints." So that's what it's going to be, is it? - clarkjohnsen 08:54:32 09/24/07 (18)
- RE: "I give you The Church of the Latter Day Saints." So that's what it's going to be, is it? - EBradMeyer 14:18:08 09/24/07 (1)
- "The device we were using is a recording system, which passes a signal *through* it." Oh. - clarkjohnsen 10:13:34 09/25/07 (0)
- RE: "I give you The Church of the Latter Day Saints." So that's what it's going to be, is it? - EBradMeyer 13:53:30 09/24/07 (15)
- "It's not up to me to prove reviewers can't hear the huge differences." LOL! You made the assertion... - clarkjohnsen 09:59:20 09/25/07 (8)
- Still bullshitting? - tlyyra 10:21:25 09/26/07 (2)
- I be happy you continue to delude yourself. Couldn't happen to a more appropriate guy. - clarkjohnsen 11:22:48 09/28/07 (1)
- Done that - tlyyra 10:05:26 09/29/07 (0)
- RE: "It's not up to me, etc." - EBradMeyer 11:28:48 09/25/07 (4)
- "They're... way to risky for you." Oh geez, puh-leeze. - clarkjohnsen 09:16:22 09/26/07 (0)
- You're correct - it has been demonstrated. Don't bother arguing with him; it's an utter waste of time. /nt - truthseekerprime 20:01:22 09/25/07 (2)
- "It has been demonstrated" all right... that it's "a crock". That's if you pay any attention to... - clarkjohnsen 09:24:08 09/26/07 (0)
- RE: You're correct etc. - EBradMeyer 07:32:26 09/26/07 (0)
- Complettely OT - ABXing absolute polarity - Axon 22:32:57 09/24/07 (5)
- RE: Complettely OT - ABXing absolute polarity - EBradMeyer 01:33:16 09/25/07 (4)
- You underestimate the thickness of my skull - Axon 05:52:32 09/25/07 (3)
- RE: You underestimate the thickness of my skull - EBradMeyer 11:33:53 09/25/07 (2)
- No pain, no gain! - Axon 16:54:20 09/26/07 (1)
- RE: No pain, no gain! - EBradMeyer 07:40:47 09/27/07 (0)
- RE: "A CD would have sounded the same." Good to know, but bland assertions are not proof. Besides... - krabapple 16:24:39 09/22/07 (1)
- AA posts as "uncontradicted evidence" - tlyyra 03:30:22 09/23/07 (0)
- You're right Clark, but that's not the point. - rick_m 12:34:04 09/22/07 (8)
- Thank you. But even "going astray", while that does happen, is not the core of my argument. - clarkjohnsen 11:09:23 09/23/07 (7)
- RE: Thank you. But even "going astray", while that does happen, is not the core of my argument. - rick_m 13:09:12 09/23/07 (6)
- "They have eliminated [CD playback] as a variable," True; but then they try to tell us... - clarkjohnsen 08:26:14 09/24/07 (5)
- Having now read it... - rick_m 09:07:04 09/25/07 (1)
- "I wasn't missing much." Indeed not. Yet I got challenged for calling it a quick read! nt - clarkjohnsen 10:02:59 09/25/07 (0)
- OK,Ok,ok - rick_m 09:14:13 09/24/07 (2)
- This URL may get you to it. - clarkjohnsen 09:33:57 09/24/07 (1)
- Excellent, thanks! nt - rick_m 09:46:55 09/24/07 (0)