In Reply to: How literal are you being when you say "Don't kid yourself"?... posted by Wellfed on August 3, 2006 at 12:29:32:
"how do you personally distinguish between "smart" and "dumb" audiophiles?"(Folks, how could I pass up a straight line like this one, it's just too juicy.)
OK Wellfed, since you asked, here's how. The smart ones see things my way, the dumb ones....don't.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - new knobs - Tre' 12:01:01 07/31/06 (238)
- Actually.... - Jon Risch 18:16:47 08/2/06 (85)
- Making up science to fit your hypothesis - Caymus 17:10:33 08/6/06 (3)
- The real question - unclestu52 11:25:31 08/8/06 (2)
- First prove Fairies are NOT imagination before hypothesizing how they fly - Caymus 16:50:48 08/9/06 (1)
- I already showed it to my satisfaction, - unclestu52 19:03:54 08/15/06 (0)
- Re: Actually.... - Todd Krieger 22:23:40 08/3/06 (2)
- Re: Actually.... - Jon Risch 20:28:19 08/4/06 (0)
- Me too... - Wellfed 15:31:41 08/4/06 (0)
- How a pot works? - cheap-Jack 08:27:33 08/3/06 (2)
- Touche! - unclestu52 19:23:55 08/3/06 (1)
- You're not alone. - cheap-Jack 06:55:01 08/4/06 (0)
- Re: Actually.... - Dan Banquer 04:31:05 08/3/06 (34)
- I would think you could get a good switch for less than $485! - Pat D 08:33:23 08/4/06 (4)
- You are correct, and with a knob that works too. nt - Dan Banquer 16:38:49 08/4/06 (3)
- Are they audiophile knobs? (nt) - Pat D 13:44:53 08/5/06 (2)
- Re: Are they audiophile knobs? (nt) - Dan Banquer 15:55:06 08/5/06 (1)
- Those are my kind of knobs! (nt) - Pat D 15:02:36 08/7/06 (0)
- Re: Actually.... - Soundmind 04:37:02 08/3/06 (28)
- Be nice & thankful.. - cheap-Jack 07:24:40 08/4/06 (12)
- Re: Be nice & thankful.. - Soundmind 10:45:50 08/4/06 (11)
- Now I know where you come from. - cheap-Jack 12:36:37 08/4/06 (10)
- A Bosch car? I think not! - clifff 14:04:30 08/4/06 (2)
- Re: A Bosch car? I think not! - unclestu52 17:13:05 08/4/06 (1)
- Yes, you know what you're talking about. - cheap-Jack 06:28:59 08/8/06 (0)
- Re: Now I know where you come from. - Soundmind 12:59:37 08/4/06 (6)
- If Romex is so good,... - cheap-Jack 07:23:06 08/8/06 (5)
- Re: If Romex is so good,... - Soundmind 14:50:27 08/8/06 (4)
- Sorry, no THHN for speaker cable, please. - cheap-Jack 13:51:33 08/9/06 (3)
- Re: Sorry, no THHN for speaker cable, please. - Soundmind 17:29:33 08/9/06 (2)
- For sure it's not my imagination. - cheap-Jack 08:44:51 08/10/06 (1)
- One day they will catch up to The Home Depot - Soundmind 15:12:02 08/11/06 (0)
- Nice retort, you're - unclestu52 14:36:56 08/3/06 (14)
- Re: Nice retort, you're - Soundmind 16:05:34 08/3/06 (13)
- Re: Nice retort, you're - Tre' 20:14:45 08/3/06 (6)
- Re: Nice retort, you're - Soundmind 03:25:23 08/4/06 (1)
- Surely I sat myself in a "rare" situation. - cheap-Jack 08:09:06 08/4/06 (0)
- With all due respect, - unclestu52 00:02:45 08/4/06 (3)
- Re: With all due respect, - Tre' 08:59:16 08/4/06 (2)
- Sorry Tre'.... - unclestu52 11:41:05 08/5/06 (1)
- Re: Sorry Tre'.... - Tre' 11:57:57 08/5/06 (0)
- You certainly - unclestu52 19:21:42 08/3/06 (5)
- We certainly do live in different universes - Soundmind 03:27:49 08/4/06 (4)
- Re: We certainly do live in different universes - unclestu52 19:59:29 08/4/06 (0)
- Mine cost nothing at all. - Dave Pogue 06:33:23 08/4/06 (2)
- Then you weren't cheated, you got exactly what you paid for nt - Soundmind 06:48:25 08/4/06 (1)
- Must be denial, then. - Dave Pogue 06:59:11 08/4/06 (0)
- Re: Actually.... - Tre' 22:19:56 08/2/06 (39)
- Hmmmmmm.... - Jon Risch 20:58:03 08/4/06 (2)
- Re: Hmmmmmm.... - Tre' 15:19:11 08/5/06 (1)
- Re: Hmmmmmm.... - Wellfed 20:21:30 08/5/06 (0)
- Re: Actually.... - john curl 17:01:13 08/4/06 (8)
- Re: Actually.... - Tre' 15:40:03 08/5/06 (2)
- Re: Actually.... - john curl 16:22:21 08/6/06 (1)
- Re: Actually.... - Tre' 18:15:06 08/6/06 (0)
- Tres Droll - Soundmind 07:49:17 08/5/06 (0)
- Re: John, am pretty sure he - geoffkait 05:48:38 08/5/06 (3)
- Re: John, am pretty sure he - Tre' 15:38:15 08/5/06 (1)
- Re: John, am pretty sure he - john curl 11:34:02 08/5/06 (1)
- Re: John, am pretty sure he - Tre' 15:25:58 08/5/06 (0)
- "Science does not tolerate unsubstaniated claims." Have you substantiated that claim? Moreover... - clarkjohnsen 09:34:22 08/3/06 (2)
- Which is precisely why it no longer takes 78 RPM shellac records seriously - Soundmind 08:33:18 08/5/06 (0)
- Re: "Science does not tolerate unsubstaniated claims." Have you substantiated that claim? Moreover... - Tre' 09:48:56 08/3/06 (0)
- How good is science today? - cheap-Jack 08:54:48 08/3/06 (9)
- Re: How good is science today? - Tre' 10:02:38 08/3/06 (8)
- So if religion is fact or a theory? - cheap-Jack 15:02:40 08/3/06 (7)
- Are they trying to convert you? - Pat D 05:49:21 08/4/06 (5)
- I won't. - cheap-Jack 07:35:59 08/4/06 (4)
- Re: I won't. - Pat D 08:20:25 08/4/06 (0)
- I think the Almighty is ringing... - Wellfed 08:09:45 08/4/06 (2)
- Pick up the phone for me, please. - cheap-Jack 08:14:42 08/4/06 (1)
- Will do, I'll put in a good word or two for you as well while I'm at it. :-) [nt] - Wellfed 08:22:54 08/4/06 (0)
- Re: So if religion is fact or a theory? - Tre' 16:51:41 08/3/06 (0)
- Jon Risch will find a fly in any ointment - Soundmind 04:34:31 08/3/06 (13)
- Some folks bury their heads so far in the sand - Jon Risch 22:50:33 08/4/06 (2)
- You'd make me want to take out my fiddle and play you a sad song while we all cry over the injustice of life... - Soundmind 17:30:07 08/5/06 (1)
- Hmmmm, been reading a lot of fiction have ya?... - Wellfed 10:52:30 08/6/06 (0)
- Re: Jon Risch will find a fly in any ointment - Tre' 08:22:49 08/3/06 (9)
- Re: Jon Risch will find a fly in any ointment - Soundmind 09:38:44 08/3/06 (8)
- Perhaps they (the FTC) have viewed matters... - Wellfed 11:16:08 08/3/06 (6)
- Re: Perhaps they (the FTC) have viewed matters... - Soundmind 12:15:00 08/3/06 (5)
- How literal are you being when you say "Don't kid yourself"?... - Wellfed 12:29:32 08/3/06 (4)
- Re: How literal are you being when you say "Don't kid yourself"?... - Soundmind 08/3/0612:34:58 08/3/06 (3)
- Well now, I can't say that I'm surprised... - Wellfed 12:41:42 08/3/06 (2)
- Re: Well now, I can't say that I'm surprised... - Soundmind 15:58:22 08/3/06 (1)
- Whatever gets you through the night. [nt] - Wellfed 18:31:19 08/3/06 (0)
- "they figure the suckers deserve to be fleeced" - Tre' 10:05:06 08/3/06 (0)
- I had my eyes on a pair of new knobs... - Phil Tower 13:28:53 08/2/06 (0)
- Wanna trade a set of knobs for an RCCD disc duplicator? - Soundmind 16:29:41 08/1/06 (1)
- Sadly many golden ears will believe in "Better Knobs" because beliefs are more important than objective experiments - Richard BassNut Greene 09:26:22 08/1/06 (34)
- I should add that even bizarre sounding tweaks should be tested (SBT or DBT) after the jokes stop - Richard BassNut Greene 08:16:58 08/3/06 (1)
- Heck yeah, I'd even agree with your last statement... - Wellfed 09:49:18 08/3/06 (0)
- I'll bet you haven't tried DBT trials on changing your door knobs - Soundmind 07:08:17 08/2/06 (1)
- Sort of. :) - Ted Smith 08:12:30 08/2/06 (0)
- So many souls to save, so little time, eh Richard? nt - markrohr 12:05:56 08/1/06 (29)
- So many mistakes to make, so many opportunities to make them, eh, mark? nt - Soundmind 16:27:09 08/1/06 (18)
- Of course! - markrohr 04:15:29 08/2/06 (17)
- Buying wooden knobs is stupid because the only ones that really work are made out of lead :-) - Soundmind 05:09:29 08/2/06 (16)
- I would imagine you have a corner on the nut market nt - Norm 19:34:15 08/2/06 (15)
- The Redcoats are coming! The Redcoats are coming! - Soundmind 19:42:04 08/2/06 (14)
- The code enforcers are coming! - Norm 20:26:02 08/2/06 (13)
- Isn't he precious? And *so* easily provoked. nt - clarkjohnsen 09:40:06 08/3/06 (5)
- Is this Jr. High? - Tre' 10:13:49 08/3/06 (4)
- For the most part I think posts are about personal experiences, such as yours. - Norm 19:57:09 08/3/06 (3)
- "How much have Soundmind's comments contributed to this thread?" We have a false premise there: - clarkjohnsen 08:46:25 08/4/06 (0)
- Re: For the most part I think posts are about personal experiences, such as yours. - Tre' 21:00:48 08/3/06 (1)
- To understand Clarkjohnson, you have to recognize the reality that he is a die hard Luddite - Soundmind 03:39:28 08/4/06 (0)
- No law keeps fools who invent their own electrical myths from the intenet or other fools from following your bad advice - Soundmind 03:31:49 08/3/06 (6)
- I notice that you apparently have no education nor stereo system - Norm 18:57:43 08/3/06 (5)
- Isn't it amazing, I have no education, no audio equipment, yet I am infinitely smarter and more knowledgable than you... - Soundmind 03:10:07 08/4/06 (4)
- I expect we all now know your self-declarations have no reality. - Norm 20:09:23 08/4/06 (0)
- Amazing too that... - Wellfed 07:55:24 08/4/06 (2)
- you'd better watch it.... - Soundmind 10:50:54 08/4/06 (1)
- Good humor... - Wellfed 11:00:33 08/4/06 (0)
- Usually those who are delusional, refuse to believe it - Caymus 12:37:33 08/1/06 (9)
- Also incompetents.... - mkuller 20:37:27 08/3/06 (1)
- LOL! I once knew as much as he does . . . when I was about 17. nt - markrohr 06:18:19 08/4/06 (0)
- Why would someone be considered delusional... - Wellfed 17:17:35 08/1/06 (0)
- What should I belive about 1994 Caymus Cabernet Sauvignon? (regular bottling) - Soundmind 16:33:08 08/1/06 (0)
- So? - markrohr 15:36:48 08/1/06 (4)
- "Who appointed *them?*" Cousins of those who appointed your antagonists? nt - clarkjohnsen 07:32:56 08/2/06 (3)
- You tell 'em Clark. Buy those knobs AND USE THEM or your 78s will never sound right. No sireee! - Soundmind 07:44:48 08/2/06 (2)
- Did you eat a whole case of dumbass today? nt - markrohr 09:40:07 08/2/06 (1)
- When I asked for it, there was hardly a crumb left. They said you'd gotten to it first thing this AM nt - Soundmind 10:48:10 08/2/06 (0)
- Here is my point - Tre' 08:23:53 08/1/06 (91)
- And here's mine.... - thetubeguy1954 13:13:04 08/2/06 (8)
- Re: And here's mine.... - Tre' 08:47:52 08/3/06 (5)
- Classic Objectivist Mistake, Look At Specs But Don't Listen - thetubeguy1954 13:57:25 08/3/06 (4)
- Re: Classic Objectivist Mistake, Look At Specs But Don't Listen - Tre' 17:06:34 08/3/06 (3)
- An Objectivist, Not A Music Lover. - thetubeguy1954 09:00:04 08/4/06 (2)
- Re: An Objectivist, Not A Music Lover. - Tre' 08:50:12 08/5/06 (1)
- Re: An Objectivist, Not A Music Lover. - thetubeguy1954 06:08:41 08/7/06 (0)
- Re: And here's mine.... - Tre' 08:36:55 08/3/06 (0)
- Good analysis. - cheap-Jack 13:39:12 08/2/06 (0)
- While I would not purchase a $485 knob - unclestu52 11:25:13 08/1/06 (12)
- Isn't this tweak called a "pot ring"? - andy_c 21:11:47 08/5/06 (0)
- Being a subjectivist, I respect yr sonic discovery. - cheap-Jack 13:23:17 08/2/06 (0)
- Of course EVERYTHING makes a differnece - Caymus 12:50:57 08/1/06 (6)
- I said I wouldn't buy the knob - unclestu52 13:38:49 08/1/06 (5)
- Why not go them one better and get rid of all your knobs. What do you need them for anyway? - Soundmind 16:49:41 08/1/06 (3)
- Soooo, have you tried that yet - unclestu52 17:53:06 08/1/06 (0)
- Re: Why not go them one better and get rid of all your knobs. What do you need them for anyway? - Tom Dawson 16:54:15 08/1/06 (1)
- Don't be such a geeber. [nt] - Wellfed 17:24:44 08/1/06 (0)
- Re: I said I wouldn't buy the knob - Tre' 14:53:18 08/1/06 (0)
- Re: While I would not purchase a $485 knob - Tre' 11:47:59 08/1/06 (2)
- Re: While I would not purchase a $485 knob - unclestu52 11:59:02 08/1/06 (1)
- Re: While I would not purchase a $485 knob - Tre' 13:05:40 08/1/06 (0)
- "It's up to that person to prove the assertion." Why? Who are you to make such demands? - clarkjohnsen 08:36:48 08/1/06 (68)
- When you work for a magazine publisher, the only proof you need comes when the check for the advert clears. nt - Soundmind 16:24:10 08/1/06 (0)
- Is this a deliberate misunderstanding? The "demand" is for ourselves, what we require. - Pat D 12:54:36 08/1/06 (53)
- You Have No Right To "Demand" Anything Of Us! - thetubeguy1954 13:30:10 08/2/06 (22)
- "The lady protests too much, methinks." - Pat D 06:40:49 08/3/06 (21)
- Re: "The lady protests too much, methinks." - kerr 13:22:42 08/3/06 (5)
- Re: "The lady protests too much, methinks." - Pat D 15:27:32 08/3/06 (4)
- Re: "The lady protests too much, methinks." - kerr 18:05:56 08/3/06 (3)
- Re: "The lady protests too much, methinks." - Pat D 19:31:21 08/3/06 (2)
- Re: "The lady protests too much, methinks." - kerr 04:56:45 08/4/06 (1)
- For some it's as simple as... - Wellfed 20:08:52 08/4/06 (0)
- As Usual You're Wrong Again.... - thetubeguy1954 12:51:58 08/3/06 (11)
- If you don't care, why do keep writing such long posts? - Pat D 15:43:42 08/3/06 (10)
- Because Your Responses Requires It.... - thetubeguy1954 08:28:42 08/4/06 (9)
- Reading comprehension. - Pat D 09:08:24 08/4/06 (8)
- You're Playing Games With Semantics Pat - thetubeguy1954 13:45:58 08/4/06 (7)
- Do you actually understand what 'not proven' means? - Pat D 21:47:58 08/4/06 (6)
- Yes, I Do. You Just Won't Accept The Proof! - thetubeguy1954 06:55:02 08/7/06 (5)
- No results, no quantification, no DBTs, no proof. - Pat D 13:14:04 08/7/06 (4)
- Ok Real JJ Junior - thetubeguy1954 14:15:33 08/7/06 (3)
- I suggest you don't comment on technical issues you don't understand. - Pat D 14:56:58 08/7/06 (2)
- Now You're A Comedian? - thetubeguy1954 07:50:45 08/8/06 (1)
- We'll see what the experts say. - Pat D 09:06:15 08/8/06 (0)
- I'm curious... - Wellfed 11:26:07 08/3/06 (1)
- Re: I'm curious... - Tre' 13:46:24 08/3/06 (0)
- Thank you Pat, Well said. (nt) - Tre' 10:07:59 08/3/06 (0)
- What is your problem then?... - Wellfed 17:31:45 08/1/06 (29)
- You're one of those with the problem, not me. - Pat D 18:31:43 08/1/06 (28)
- And which problem would that be exactly? [nt] - Wellfed 18:44:55 08/1/06 (27)
- Re: And which problem would that be exactly? [nt] - thetubeguy1954 13:32:00 08/2/06 (26)
- Actually I egged Pat on a bit... - Wellfed 15:03:47 08/2/06 (25)
- That Doesn't Take Much.... - thetubeguy1954 13:03:56 08/3/06 (16)
- Wrong forum. - Tre' 13:37:04 08/3/06 (5)
- "Technical and scientific discussion of amps, cables and other topics." - andy_c 21:35:19 08/5/06 (1)
- FWIW... - Wellfed 00:08:13 08/6/06 (0)
- This Post Of Yours (see inside) Is Strictly Opinion As Well - thetubeguy1954 14:05:56 08/3/06 (1)
- Re: This Post Of Yours (see inside) Is Strictly Opinion As Well - Tre' 20:50:11 08/3/06 (0)
- Re: Wrong forum. - thetubeguy1954 14:03:43 08/3/06 (0)
- You have grasped the issue - kerr 13:09:45 08/3/06 (9)
- Re: You have grasped the issue - Tre' 13:40:17 08/3/06 (8)
- Re: You have grasped the issue - kerr 18:09:33 08/3/06 (7)
- Prop Head is the place moderators chose for THIS type of discussion... - Wellfed 18:41:43 08/3/06 (6)
- What moderators? - andy_c 21:57:31 08/5/06 (4)
- You must have missed at least one posting from BS64... - Wellfed 23:58:14 08/5/06 (3)
- ya gotta admit... - BS64 12:51:27 08/7/06 (2)
- Yes, a real duesie that one... - Wellfed 22:52:38 08/7/06 (0)
- Re: In the words of Bugs Bunny... - geoffkait 13:26:39 08/7/06 (0)
- That's a good point - kerr 05:00:47 08/4/06 (0)
- Re: Actually I egged Pat on a bit... - Pat D 15:40:18 08/2/06 (7)
- I think it's that insistence that's irksome... - Wellfed 16:13:57 08/2/06 (6)
- In this case it's Houston that has the problem! nt - clarkjohnsen 09:37:49 08/3/06 (5)
- Absolutely 100% Correct! - thetubeguy1954 13:22:59 08/3/06 (4)
- Straw man - Pat D 08:01:55 08/4/06 (0)
- Re: Absolutely 100% Correct! - Tre' 13:49:47 08/3/06 (2)
- Re: Absolutely 100% Correct! - thetubeguy1954 14:00:55 08/3/06 (1)
- "This started with a talk about wooden knobs." Quite so. And not a "technical" post either. nt - clarkjohnsen 08:34:17 08/4/06 (0)
- Re: "It's up to that person to prove the assertion." Why? Who are you to make such demands? - Tre' 09:25:42 08/1/06 (12)
- And your self-contemplation of "logic" justifies demands on others, how, exactly? nt - clarkjohnsen 07:29:28 08/2/06 (11)
- Clark, elephants can fly just like birds do. Now prove me wrong.. - Tre' 12:43:03 08/2/06 (10)
- Now prove me wrong.--- Why Should We?. - thetubeguy1954 13:40:38 08/2/06 (9)
- Re: Now prove me wrong.--- Why Should We?. - Tre' 22:53:39 08/2/06 (8)
- Pardon my jumping in - kerr 11:54:09 08/3/06 (0)
- "Are you saying that anyone can claim anything and it should be accepted unless disproved?" No. Try again. nt - clarkjohnsen 09:29:35 08/3/06 (6)
- Then what? (nt) - Tre' 10:09:25 08/3/06 (5)
- Ball's still in your court. nt - clarkjohnsen 10:11:03 08/3/06 (4)
- You're not even in the court, Clark! (nt) - Pat D 10:38:37 08/3/06 (3)
- Oh, another brilliant riposte! Keep 'em coming, and LOL! nt - clarkjohnsen 10:50:53 08/3/06 (2)
- Grow up. This is not a contest of wits. - Tre' 17:37:30 08/3/06 (1)
- You're right, this is not a contest of wits, it's actually a contest of twits... - Wellfed 18:52:22 08/3/06 (0)
- Lucky 13 - E-Stat 21:00:22 07/31/06 (2)
- Your joke gets me. (nt) - cheap-Jack 07:25:33 08/1/06 (0)
- Yes it did, but did I make a point? (nt) - Tre' 22:30:44 07/31/06 (0)
- I just love those things. - Poindexter 17:08:57 07/31/06 (0)
- Don't you know that posts in Prop Head ... - Dave Pogue 16:28:21 07/31/06 (2)
- Which humor? They DO sell those grossly tuned buttons for $500 - Jacques 01:17:10 08/1/06 (1)
- Okay, Deadly Seriousness it is. - Dave Pogue 04:28:11 08/1/06 (0)
- A post on these knobs is what's known as a "hardy perennial." nt - markrohr 13:19:51 07/31/06 (0)
- So you're sure - cheap-Jack 12:54:38 07/31/06 (1)
- Re: So you're sure - Tre' 15:10:48 07/31/06 (0)
- $485.00 each. Gullibility has no limit ! nt - Jacques 12:14:26 07/31/06 (12)
- Tell me about it One guy raved over a $10,000 Nagra 3 tube preamp with under $100 worth of parts in the signal circut - Soundmind 16:43:52 08/1/06 (6)
- It's a real crime that they force you to buy it. - markrohr 09:41:43 08/2/06 (5)
- The only real crime is that people stupid enough to buy it are allowed to actually handle their own money - Soundmind 19:44:35 08/2/06 (4)
- Listen to you! - markrohr 06:25:18 08/3/06 (3)
- Re: Listen to you! - Soundmind 06:46:58 08/3/06 (2)
- Then file a complaint. nt - markrohr 07:16:52 08/3/06 (1)
- Isn't that what he's doing around here?... - Wellfed 12:35:03 08/3/06 (0)
- Oh, but have you heard them?. (nt) - Tre' 12:22:05 07/31/06 (4)
- Good point you have there. [nt] - Wellfed 17:10:35 07/31/06 (0)
- You bet... - Jacques 12:35:20 07/31/06 (2)
- What if I told you they are made from the finest French oak used in Ch d'Yquem ageing barrels? - Soundmind 16:47:25 08/1/06 (0)
- Re: You bet... - Tre' 12:43:34 07/31/06 (0)
Follow Ups
- Re: How literal are you being when you say "Don't kid yourself"?... - Soundmind 08/3/0612:34:58 08/3/06 (3)
- Well now, I can't say that I'm surprised... - Wellfed 12:41:42 08/3/06 (2)
- Re: Well now, I can't say that I'm surprised... - Soundmind 15:58:22 08/3/06 (1)
- Whatever gets you through the night. [nt] - Wellfed 18:31:19 08/3/06 (0)