In Reply to: Of course calibration is required. posted by robert young on June 17, 2008 at 14:16:48:
Who said jj is the ultimate expert? His field is psychometrics and he has adminstered lots of DBTs. He is a Fellow of both the AES and the IEEE. This is pretty basic stuff. Why shouldn't I take his word for it?
If you want a real "a time-and-place specific parlour trick" it's sighted auditioning. At least with a DBT, one might establish to a degree of probability that one can detect a difference. Without measurements and calibration, one would not be able to establish just what the audible differences were in technical terms. But whether that is required depends on the purpose of the auditions.
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Follow Ups
- It depends on the purpose of the audition. - Pat D 06/17/0817:14:51 06/17/08 (22)
- Ah yes, another example of Fallacy # 3 - E-Stat 14:03:10 06/18/08 (0)
- Let's go back to basics. As you often chastise others for not doing. - robert young 18:47:55 06/17/08 (20)
- Yes, let's do get back to real life basics. - Pat D 20:03:32 06/17/08 (19)
- Yes, let's discuss authority. - robert young 14:05:35 06/18/08 (18)
- RE: Yes, let's discuss authority. - Pat D 17:34:02 06/18/08 (17)
- You are so far from getting this. - robert young 19:54:54 06/18/08 (16)
- Known Flaws In DBTS! - thetubeguy1954 08:39:56 06/19/08 (1)
- It seems we have taught you something . . . - Pat D 14:21:15 06/19/08 (0)
- You haven't come up with any reasons to doubt accepted scientific protocols. - Pat D 02:54:44 06/19/08 (13)
- Yes I have. - robert young 03:45:55 06/19/08 (12)
- Your arguments don't support your conclusion. - Pat D 14:40:37 06/19/08 (11)
- Sorry, but I do not accept your points. - robert young 15:08:02 06/19/08 (10)
- Just for your benefit... - bjh 17:42:49 06/19/08 (9)
- But do you benefit? - Pat D 18:02:29 06/19/08 (8)
- When I suggested that you research "forced choice," I didn't intend... - robert young 19:24:59 06/19/08 (6)
- I gave you the thread--you can search around it all you want. - Pat D 16:04:20 06/20/08 (1)
- I'm sad that you clearly can't give this more attention. - robert young 16:37:03 06/20/08 (0)
- JJ was just the sort to earn Pat D's adulation... - bjh 20:23:28 06/19/08 (3)
- I was around when he took his ball and left. - robert young 03:32:27 06/20/08 (2)
- I expect he had other things to do . . . - Pat D 05:57:06 06/21/08 (1)
- Though the point is irrelevant, you are right about it. - robert young 06:27:04 06/21/08 (0)
- RE: But do you benefit? - bjh 18:32:29 06/19/08 (0)