In Reply to: RE: Gee, Richard, maybe those tests are simply not appropriate. posted by Pat D on June 17, 2008 at 14:05:13:
The ear-brain system is the key "device" in your "protocol." That device (and don't tell me you don't understand the term) is constantly in change for each individual. If a meter wobbled out of control (was not calibrated) during tests, you wouldn't use it. If ears-brain were not consistent, why would one use them to test anything?
The result is that an audio DBT is nothing more than a time-and-place specific parlour trick.
Do you care to give me real substantive back-up as to why jj is the ultimate authority?
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Follow Ups
- Of course calibration is required. - robert young 06/17/0814:16:48 06/17/08 (23)
- It depends on the purpose of the audition. - Pat D 17:14:51 06/17/08 (22)
- Ah yes, another example of Fallacy # 3 - E-Stat 14:03:10 06/18/08 (0)
- Let's go back to basics. As you often chastise others for not doing. - robert young 18:47:55 06/17/08 (20)
- Yes, let's do get back to real life basics. - Pat D 20:03:32 06/17/08 (19)
- Yes, let's discuss authority. - robert young 14:05:35 06/18/08 (18)
- RE: Yes, let's discuss authority. - Pat D 17:34:02 06/18/08 (17)
- You are so far from getting this. - robert young 19:54:54 06/18/08 (16)
- Known Flaws In DBTS! - thetubeguy1954 08:39:56 06/19/08 (1)
- It seems we have taught you something . . . - Pat D 14:21:15 06/19/08 (0)
- You haven't come up with any reasons to doubt accepted scientific protocols. - Pat D 02:54:44 06/19/08 (13)
- Yes I have. - robert young 03:45:55 06/19/08 (12)
- Your arguments don't support your conclusion. - Pat D 14:40:37 06/19/08 (11)
- Sorry, but I do not accept your points. - robert young 15:08:02 06/19/08 (10)
- Just for your benefit... - bjh 17:42:49 06/19/08 (9)
- But do you benefit? - Pat D 18:02:29 06/19/08 (8)
- When I suggested that you research "forced choice," I didn't intend... - robert young 19:24:59 06/19/08 (6)
- I gave you the thread--you can search around it all you want. - Pat D 16:04:20 06/20/08 (1)
- I'm sad that you clearly can't give this more attention. - robert young 16:37:03 06/20/08 (0)
- JJ was just the sort to earn Pat D's adulation... - bjh 20:23:28 06/19/08 (3)
- I was around when he took his ball and left. - robert young 03:32:27 06/20/08 (2)
- I expect he had other things to do . . . - Pat D 05:57:06 06/21/08 (1)
- Though the point is irrelevant, you are right about it. - robert young 06:27:04 06/21/08 (0)
- RE: But do you benefit? - bjh 18:32:29 06/19/08 (0)