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In Reply to: RE: Does it say ANYWHERE in the BASS article... posted by rdf on December 18, 2007 at 08:02:35:
I wasn't shouting, I just didn't have time for html codes.Your simple question has a simple answer: Lipshitz [OK, I'll go for the codes :-)] clearly states that overall , including the scores for both the test tone and the musical excerpts (this is all directly lifted from the Lipshitz JAES piece that JA himself cited -- see Andy_C or bjh above for the exact quote), the results were 84 out of 137 correct responses (representing 99% confidence level, but see meaning of this term; and which 84/137 result could already be questioned as to its significance).
But the question here is: How did JA turn all this into a simple, unqualified statement proclaiming that audibility to be there "on music" (with even an exclamation mark to heigthen the significance of his assertion!)??? There was certainly enough information there in his own references to know better.
Even if we assume your mildest-case scenario as the most accurate one (JA simply was unable to understand statistics and/or terminology here, and so erred without aiming to mislead, which we of course do not know as he refuses to clarify the issue), what he could and should do is to correct the misinformation/error after it has been brought to his attention.
This has not been done, even though in public (also here on AA) he has presented Stereophile proudly as one of the few accurate & reliable publications out there that actually issues corrections of factual erros. Only this isn't happening, at least not with this particular issue. What are we going to make out of that, then?
I may have the BASS issue but will have to look it up in storage and I can't do that now. If I find it, I'll let you know, but what do you expect to find in it? If you cite a test in support of your position, you better ensure that this test indeed supports your position. It's no one else's responsibility but your own. And it's too bad if you aren't capable of deciphering research reports or did a sloppy job reading them, but then you shouldn't have tried and used them in the first place. It's that simple really.
I don't care about what Stereophile or John Atkinson does, but I don't like hypocrisy and arrogance especially when they combine, and I don't like it when people keep denying undisputed facts for ideological reasons, and I don't like pointless objections for objections' sake when I point to the existence of such facts. Hence my posts here, if you want to know. Nothing personal. I hope with you, too.
TL
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