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Exactly.

Thanks for putting this all in one post.

clarkjohnsen has the Audio Amateur article is you're interested in it, but he doesn't seem willing to either cite the relevant piece or part with the issue.

The ABX comparator site lists the actual same test score all these articles and other sources separately talk about. But it's given there in greater detail as you note (broken down b/w results with music vs. test tone).

You can also search online for BASS discussions (there are several) on this very topic & study. Or for references to it in The Audio Critic. Both have been readily availble. There are also thesis works relying on or referring to these same results (I recall at least one from Berkeley) and the results have even made it to the curricula at some places (UCLA IIRC what I've seen).

I have not been able to locate information on any other possible research by Lipshitz related to this same problem.

That then gave rise to my question to Atkinson: Is there another, hitherto secret experiment that Lipshitz conducted that we don't know of but he does, or is he (Atkinson) misrepresenting the results of this known and well-published study?

As you are able to tell I've now concluded the latter is the case. I guess that is what Truthseekerprime also expressed as his opinion before getting banned from AA for "defamation" as it seems.

TL

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