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In Reply to: Question RE: Atkinson - DBT/Absolute Signal Polarity posted by bjh on December 16, 2007 at 13:30:27:
First piece of advise:If you want to get lucky attacking another poster, don't go with your gut reaction and try just quick conjecture; most people here can see through standard insinuation. Instead, check your facts first.
At least take even a superficial glance at what your citations are about before trying to raise objections based on them. In science it is normal that test results are discussed and reported in several different connections. (The point is to promote open discusssion, a concept which admittedly may be alien to many here.) I was trying to make the job a bit easier for people like you who may normally not enjoy reading research reports by referencing the actual numbers separately. The work based on the specific results can be published in various contexts such as in this case JAES, BASS, and even in an additional article in The Audio Amateur (possibly others). Anyone who has read any of these pieces would not claim, as Atkinson does, that "reversal of absolute signal polarity will be subtly audible on music to a 99% confidence limit! " (his emphasis) which is
not music , and the fact is of course made very clear in the articles also he himself cited. Hence, distortion, not error (quite an "error" by the way: with music the result was 53%, not 99% ). So check your sources, add up the numbers, and review the record for any other research on this topic done by Lipshitz that could match those numbers. Jump only after that, if you please.
Alternatively I can give you another standard AA answer which may be easier for the likes of you: search and ye shall find. All this has been discussed, referenced, and cited in the AA Critics and Prop Head fora before, so you really don't need to go on reiterating the same thing over and over again.
How's that for being kind?
Second piece of advise:
If you guys have any objections as to the validity of this research done by Lipshitz et al., I suggest you forward your comments directly to JA who was the one to endorse it in no unambiguous terms on the pages of Stereophile (finding reason to draw attention to this particular test series designed by Lipshitz's "formidable mind" apparently as something particularly "carefully organized"). That is all there in the quotation you too copied into your post above if only you wanted to see it. I was merely commenting on the way this work is (mis)represented.
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Follow Ups
- Here's a piece of advise. Or two. - tlyyra 12/17/0705:47:08 12/17/07 (2)
- RE: Here's a piece of advise. Or two. - morricab 03:03:09 12/21/07 (1)
- RE: Here's a piece of advise. Or two. - tlyyra 11:54:01 12/22/07 (0)
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