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You are so wrong it is beyond pathetic!

For starters let's examine "tubeguy"'s challenge:

"If you Objectivists really believe in the validity of Measurements & DBT's why not participate in a series of DBT's to see if you can determine which amplifier has the most accurate measurements via DBT's?":

What is it the objectivists never tire of telling us? They tell us that "well designed" amplifiers (or CD Players, etc.) have such low levels of distortion that the notion of sonic differences is silly. It's not a question of 0.05% THD vs. 0.01% THD, not at all, it's that the levels for "well designed" stuff is so low, whatever they might actually be, that no one can hear any difference.

BTW, that's the obvious objectivist response to "tubeguy"'s silly challenge however I for one evince no great surprise that none of the dumbasses here with objectivist leanings failed to make it.

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But that's hardly even relevant to the Holt's article and your incredible misreading of what he said. Paraphrasing he basically says here we have a couple of "clowns" who have conducted some silly "tests" custom designed to "confim" their preexisting convictions.

Now let's examine what he makes of these "clowns" and their little tests.

"It would seem to us that the project was improperly conducted from the start. Instead of trying to prove thing cannot be done (ie, hearing minuscule amounts of distortion), they should have challenged some of the people who claim they can do it to prove that they can. Otherwise, the "experiment" becomes no more meaningful than a group of deaf people proving to their mutual satisfaction that, although sounds can be measured, people who claim to hear them are deluding themselves."

He's saying you need to test people who claim they *can* hear differences rather than people who claim they *can't* since testing the latter amounts to little more than a self-serving exercise if the object is to demonstrate no differences (i.e. a "clowns" exercise).

How is what Holt said "pretty much what tubeguy was proposing"? It seems the only thing in common is that "tubeguy"'s challenge, like Holt's "clowns", involves testing the *can't* listeners!

Really your conclusion is quite beyond me, it seems akin to giving credence to the notion that the Eiffel Tower has tits based upon the arguement that 1) the Status of Liberty has tits and, 2) both were made by the French!








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