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In Reply to: No one has ever proven to witnesses that wires have audible sound quality differences posted by Richard BassNut Greene on August 9, 2006 at 08:51:49:
...jj said:> What's more, despite the insistance of all these "negative" influences, some somewhat iffy tests have indeed SHOWN DIFFERENCES in cables. Oops.>
http://db.audioasylum.com/cgi/m.mpl?forum=prophead&n=16452&highlight=cable+ DBT+real_jj&r=&session=
"SHOWN DIFFERENCES IN CABLES", repeat after me...
His "iffy tests" are a whole lot better designed and controlled than yours or Greenhill's whose 'Golden Ear' also could hear the differences.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Why Wires Sound Different or Objectivists Got It All Wrong... - thetubeguy1954 09:52:18 08/8/06 (134)
- Re: Why Wires Sound Different or Objectivists Got It All Wrong... - Todd Krieger 21:55:20 08/10/06 (0)
- IF...wires sound different.... - Soundmind 11:52:52 08/10/06 (13)
- And pray tell what are those standards set so long ago? And how are they so easily undone? - Norm 12:54:32 08/10/06 (8)
- The Redcoats are coming the Redcoats are coming. - Soundmind 15:44:59 08/10/06 (7)
- As usual you have nothing to say. Just unsupported statements as usual. - Norm 16:35:47 08/10/06 (6)
- I got my information directly from Paul Revere himself nt - Soundmind 16:38:57 08/10/06 (5)
- Did the lantern meet code? - Norm 16:55:00 08/10/06 (2)
- No, that didn't come til Morse (what a dumb question.).... - Soundmind 16:59:01 08/10/06 (1)
- One if by land; two if by sea (what a dumb response, simplemind) - Norm 20:14:18 08/10/06 (0)
- Except of course for the fact that you misquoted him - E-Stat 16:49:43 08/10/06 (1)
- Yeah that too! The E-stats are coming The E-stats are coming.... - Soundmind 16:57:09 08/10/06 (0)
- So what you are saying - unclestu52 12:06:42 08/10/06 (3)
- Re: So what you are saying - Soundmind 15:44:11 08/10/06 (2)
- So what you are saying - unclestu52 18:35:03 08/10/06 (1)
- Re: So what you are saying - Soundmind 18:59:54 08/10/06 (0)
- Re: Why Wires Sound Different or Objectivists Got It All Wrong... - john curl 00:33:40 08/10/06 (11)
- "...who don't believe in the program" which is what.... to get at the truth or to make money? - Soundmind 09:00:02 08/10/06 (3)
- How is your research coming that shows a new measurement that correlates with what people hear? nt - Norm 12:50:44 08/10/06 (2)
- Most of those who heard of Lexington and Concord favor revolution by about 2:1 nt - Soundmind 16:40:41 08/10/06 (1)
- Keep up your research. - Norm 16:57:49 08/10/06 (0)
- Re: Why Wires Sound Different or Objectivists Got It All Wrong... - jneutron 07:06:54 08/10/06 (0)
- Re: Why Wires Sound Different or Objectivists Got It All Wrong... - andy19191 07:00:34 08/10/06 (0)
- Re: Why Wires Sound Different or Objectivists Got It All Wrong... - thetubeguy1954 05:45:28 08/10/06 (4)
- You crack me up. - jneutron 07:09:39 08/10/06 (3)
- A Perfect Example - thetubeguy1954 09:42:54 08/10/06 (2)
- Ask somebody else for assistance in understanding, please.. - jneutron 10:19:25 08/10/06 (1)
- That proves it - Soundmind 17:03:24 08/10/06 (0)
- Your arguments are relevant only if... - Caymus 10:13:35 08/9/06 (5)
- I was wondering why - unclestu52 11:11:19 08/9/06 (2)
- I used to believe in cable magic like you - Caymus 13:03:33 08/9/06 (1)
- Re: I used to believe in cable magic like you - thetubeguy1954 13:45:56 08/9/06 (0)
- What A Bunch Of Misinformation - thetubeguy1954 10:50:00 08/9/06 (1)
- For typical audio equipment impedances and typical short cable lengths... - Caymus 12:50:25 08/9/06 (0)
- Re: Why Wires Sound Different or Objectivists Got It All Wrong... - tomservo 09:54:57 08/9/06 (33)
- My AC power cord is bigger than your AC power cord and purtier too! - Richard BassNut Greene 14:01:42 08/10/06 (1)
- Re: My AC power cord is bigger than your AC power cord and purtier too! - andy19191 15:05:13 08/10/06 (0)
- One thing at a time.. - jneutron 12:23:09 08/9/06 (28)
- Didn't quite follow this sentence - E-Stat 07:01:08 08/10/06 (22)
- Guess it's local humor.. - jneutron 07:18:37 08/10/06 (21)
- I'm still struggling to find a verb for the safety clause - E-Stat 07:58:29 08/10/06 (20)
- Re: I'm still struggling to find a verb for the safety clause - jneutron 08:25:47 08/10/06 (19)
- Great answer - E-Stat 08:37:41 08/10/06 (18)
- Well, for example - jneutron 09:03:33 08/10/06 (17)
- I'm again at a loss - E-Stat 16:47:38 08/10/06 (12)
- Don't be...stay at a Holiday Inn..:-) - jneutron 07:24:36 08/11/06 (11)
- Thanks for the explanation - E-Stat 09:23:13 08/11/06 (10)
- I lied - another follow up question :) - E-Stat 09:27:08 08/11/06 (9)
- Straightwire - unclestu52 13:45:16 08/15/06 (5)
- Re: Straightwire - jneutron 06:20:02 08/16/06 (0)
- Interesting - E-Stat 14:22:54 08/15/06 (3)
- Re: Interesting - jneutron 06:22:59 08/16/06 (2)
- No prob. - jneutron 09:54:33 08/11/06 (0)
- Patent 5110999 is real, I checked - Atexanathome 09:49:33 08/11/06 (1)
- Ah, thank you. You are correct, it is not what I am talking about.nt - jneutron 10:15:36 08/11/06 (0)
- I've never wanted to be a scientist - kerr 10:48:26 08/10/06 (3)
- Well then, ... you are a great success! - Richard BassNut Greene 14:08:46 08/10/06 (2)
- What traits do you ascribe to the empirical audiophile?... - Wellfed 10:01:26 08/11/06 (0)
- I'm so proud of me! - kerr 14:39:34 08/10/06 (0)
- Re: One thing at a time.. - tomservo 17:01:39 08/9/06 (4)
- My hat's off to you gentlemen! - unclestu52 16:35:08 08/17/06 (0)
- Hi Tom - jneutron 07:00:30 08/10/06 (2)
- Re: Hi Tom - tomservo 09:26:22 08/10/06 (1)
- Re: Hi Tom - jneutron 10:05:42 08/10/06 (0)
- Re: Why Wires Sound Different or Objectivists Got It All Wrong... - thetubeguy1954 10:12:07 08/9/06 (1)
- Re: Why Wires Sound Different or Objectivists Got It All Wrong... - tomservo 17:02:53 08/9/06 (0)
- No one has ever proven to witnesses that wires have audible sound quality differences - Richard BassNut Greene 08:51:49 08/9/06 (11)
- Mr. Nut, please stop making these false claims... - mkuller 08/9/0616:20:48 08/9/06 (1)
- "among wires of typical lengths intended for audio use" - Pat D 17:29:36 08/9/06 (0)
- Why no false positives on wires? - okiemax 10:38:34 08/9/06 (0)
- Not True! - thetubeguy1954 09:46:28 08/9/06 (7)
- True! ... You also need to stop boasting about how well you hear and just do a one-hour single-blind interconnect test - Richard BassNut Greene 09:02:55 08/10/06 (6)
- Re: True! ... You also need to stop boasting about how well you hear and just do a one-hour single-blind interconnect te - thetubeguy1954 13:59:45 08/10/06 (5)
- Your credibility is in doubt - Richard BassNut Greene 14:20:36 08/10/06 (4)
- And You Are Lying Again.... - thetubeguy1954 10:51:12 08/11/06 (3)
- I had never seen your post before but now that I have -- your so-called tests were NOT objective tests at all - Richard BassNut Greene 08:39:30 08/12/06 (2)
- How Convenient You Missed That ONE Post RBG - thetubeguy1954 11:58:03 08/13/06 (1)
- Yeah, I lost my one opportunity to disagree with it months earlier ! - Richard BassNut Greene 08:00:54 08/14/06 (0)
- You still persist in misrepresenting me. - Pat D 18:46:21 08/8/06 (0)
- Congratulations:The best troll since the last post of Aczel's Ten Biggest Lies in Audio - Atexanathome 15:56:54 08/8/06 (6)
- One man's troll... - Wellfed 21:46:47 08/9/06 (2)
- Wow! You actually talked to him! - Atexanathome 16:36:58 08/10/06 (1)
- Thanks... - Wellfed 22:35:07 08/10/06 (0)
- Re: Congratulations:The best troll since the last post of Aczel's Ten Biggest Lies in Audio - thetubeguy1954 06:02:21 08/9/06 (2)
- Did you look at the link to Don Morrison's site? - Atexanathome 18:30:03 08/9/06 (0)
- Re: Congratulations:The best troll since the last post of Aczel's Ten Biggest Lies in Audio - jneutron 07:03:35 08/9/06 (0)
- hmmm - jneutron 13:52:16 08/8/06 (22)
- Re: hmmm - thetubeguy1954 14:11:13 08/8/06 (21)
- Re: hmmm - jneutron 06:36:30 08/9/06 (20)
- Re: hmmm - thetubeguy1954 09:18:18 08/9/06 (19)
- Humpty Dumpty and Private Language - Pat D 10:52:57 08/9/06 (2)
- Re: Humpty Dumpty and Private Language - thetubeguy1954 11:06:10 08/9/06 (1)
- You need to get your facts straight. - jneutron 11:38:10 08/9/06 (0)
- PAY ATTENTION. - jneutron 10:42:45 08/9/06 (15)
- Re: PAY ATTENTION. - thetubeguy1954 10:53:00 08/9/06 (14)
- That is different - jneutron 11:25:33 08/9/06 (13)
- Another Attempt - thetubeguy1954 12:45:55 08/9/06 (12)
- Sigh.. - jneutron 13:08:34 08/9/06 (11)
- Try Answering The Question. - thetubeguy1954 13:38:28 08/9/06 (10)
- Re: Try Answering The Question. - jneutron 14:03:03 08/9/06 (0)
- "I have do desire to read at length technical articles I barely understand" - clifff 13:48:26 08/9/06 (8)
- Maybe he stayed at a Holiday Inn..nt - jneutron 10:32:57 08/10/06 (4)
- ROTFLMAO nt. - Dan Banquer 15:37:30 08/10/06 (3)
- I wish I did. Unfortunately I don't get that one :-( nt - clifff 23:39:51 08/10/06 (2)
- Re: I wish I did. Unfortunately I don't get that one :-( nt - jneutron 06:07:20 08/11/06 (1)
- Ha! That one didn't travel across the pond! nt - clifff 07:22:35 08/11/06 (0)
- Re: "I have do desire to read at length technical articles I barely understand" - Dan Banquer 15:29:43 08/9/06 (2)
- Abso...f...lutely (nt) - Bertie_Livingston 08:24:13 08/13/06 (0)
- Re: "I have do desire to read at length technical articles I barely understand" - thetubeguy1954 12:03:41 08/11/06 (0)
- Audible cable differences - kerr 13:29:47 08/8/06 (8)
- On wire::::: "the differences are very subtle" - Richard BassNut Greene 09:08:22 08/10/06 (0)
- You are WRONG! - thetubeguy1954 06:57:02 08/9/06 (3)
- I think you missed my point(s) - kerr 08:03:38 08/9/06 (2)
- Re: I think you missed my point(s) - thetubeguy1954 09:43:10 08/9/06 (1)
- Re: I think you missed my point(s) - kerr 10:41:05 08/9/06 (0)
- Re: Audible cable differences - Pat D 14:02:14 08/8/06 (2)
- Re: Audible cable differences - kerr 18:53:51 08/8/06 (1)
- Re: Audible cable differences - Pat D 19:07:58 08/8/06 (0)
- Re: both sides can be full of it at times - mls-stl 12:22:31 08/8/06 (14)
- Right on: when does it become audible? - Pat D 13:04:22 08/8/06 (13)
- Re: Right on: when does it become audible? - Doc Gaw 07:38:46 08/9/06 (12)
- Re: Right on: when does it become audible? - Pat D 09:17:58 08/9/06 (11)
- Something I gotta know - kerr 10:45:02 08/9/06 (1)
- Re: Something I gotta know - Pat D 15:18:30 08/9/06 (0)
- Re: Right on: when does it become audible? - thetubeguy1954 09:55:18 08/9/06 (8)
- So what's your point? - Pat D 07:21:28 08/10/06 (7)
- The Point Is.... - thetubeguy1954 12:56:04 08/11/06 (6)
- "ONLY you and RBG keep insisting .." - clifff 00:58:03 08/14/06 (0)
- Well now, - Pat D 16:53:07 08/11/06 (4)
- Re: Well now, - thetubeguy1954 12:12:39 08/13/06 (3)
- Re: Well now, - Pat D 15:40:43 08/13/06 (2)
- You Know The Answer To Your Question - thetubeguy1954 05:55:59 08/14/06 (1)
- Re: You Know The Answer To Your Question - Pat D 07:36:29 08/14/06 (0)
Follow Ups
- Mr. Nut, please stop making these false claims... - mkuller 08/9/0616:20:48 08/9/06 (1)
- "among wires of typical lengths intended for audio use" - Pat D 17:29:36 08/9/06 (0)
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