"the problems are to show that there are any audible differences and under what conditions."

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Topic - Blind listening test of power cords - and reactions to it. - carcass93 08:19:27 09/25/09 (151)

RE: Blind listening test of power cords - and reactions to it. - andy19191 16:44:01 09/28/09 (107)

No idea, and don't give a damn. But you're not talking about yourself, hopefully. N/T - carcass93 05:27:17 09/29/09 (16)

RE: No idea, and don't give a damn. But you're not talking about yourself, hopefully. N/T - andy19191 01:47:44 09/30/09 (15)

That would be people that aren't looking beneath the surface - kerr 08:03:19 09/30/09 (13)

RE: That would be people that aren't looking beneath the surface - andy19191 14:19:33 09/30/09 (10)

So, when thinly-disguised audiophile hater, with the only... - carcass93 09:44:00 10/1/09 (2)

RE: So, when thinly-disguised audiophile hater, with the only... - kerr 13:03:27 10/1/09 (1)

Yeah... When professionals discuss online top-of-the-line Lavry vs. Crane Song AD/DAs,... - carcass93 14:26:06 10/1/09 (0)

RE: That would be people that aren't looking beneath the surface - theaudiohobby 20:52:50 09/30/09 (0)

RE: That would be people that aren't looking beneath the surface - kerr 17:09:38 09/30/09 (4)

If you're right about "got as much as he gave", that only means... - carcass93 09:58:35 10/1/09 (3)

Thanks! - kerr 10:08:11 10/1/09 (2)

On different subject - bought some "cheap" single malts recently in Duty Free shop abroad. - carcass93 10:45:11 10/1/09 (1)

I've not done much experimenting lately - kerr 10:57:08 10/1/09 (0)

for some one who claims to be a disinterested observer - Analog Scott 15:58:18 09/30/09 (0)

"very nice argument" - I trust you don't mean as in "being nice" (but that's to be expected). - carcass93 08:56:13 09/30/09 (1)

I meant "interesting" - kerr 09:18:42 09/30/09 (0)

Fine collection of fantasies, guesses and lies in one short post. Keep it up. N/T - carcass93 08:00:55 09/30/09 (0)

What I find revealing is this quote - E-Stat 16:54:23 09/28/09 (6)

Well at least they are being honest! - Don Till 11:05:32 09/30/09 (5)

Are you being honest? I kind of doubt that... - carcass93 12:41:07 09/30/09 (2)

.Right on par - Don Till 18:19:49 09/30/09 (1)

"I'm a subjectivist " - if you say so... - carcass93 08:23:16 10/1/09 (0)

RE: Well at least they are being honest! - kerr 12:37:20 09/30/09 (1)

RE: Well at least they are being honest! - Don Till 18:24:07 09/30/09 (0)

The DBT pseudoscientists are even crazier than we hobbyists are...(nt) - mkuller 16:47:08 09/28/09 (82)

RE: The DBT pseudoscientists are even crazier than we hobbyists are...(nt) - Peter H-son 08:53:14 09/30/09 (72)

I BELIEVE!!! - morricab 14:34:56 09/30/09 (0)

Looks like your posts below have been deleted... - mkuller 09:58:16 09/30/09 (1)

RE: Looks like your posts below have been deleted... - Peter H-son 10:37:14 09/30/09 (0)

I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, it's true - kerr 09:30:09 09/30/09 (65)

RE: I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, it's true - Peter H-son 09:44:08 09/30/09 (64)

RE: I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, it's true - kerr 10:07:26 09/30/09 (55)

RE: I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, it's true - Peter H-son 10:28:03 09/30/09 (53)

"This thread is an attack on reason, skepticism, critical thinking and science." um...no - Analog Scott 11:41:39 09/30/09 (14)

RE: "This thread is an attack on reason, skepticism, critical thinking and science." um...no - Peter H-son 11:45:50 09/30/09 (13)

"Being called "lunitic fringe" by your kind is a badge of honor." - Analog Scott 13:26:33 09/30/09 (12)

RE: "Being called "lunitic fringe" by your kind is a badge of honor." - Peter H-son 10:31:31 10/1/09 (11)

"Why would I do that?" - Analog Scott 13:43:40 10/1/09 (10)

RE: "Why would I do that?" - Peter H-son 06:30:55 10/2/09 (9)

"I'm talking about the outlandish claims made by the wire fetishists." - Analog Scott 07:56:28 10/2/09 (8)

RE: "I'm talking about the outlandish claims made by the wire fetishists." - Peter H-son 09:10:04 10/2/09 (5)

RE: "I'm talking about the outlandish claims made by the wire fetishists." - Analog Scott 12:57:01 10/2/09 (4)

RE: "I'm talking about the outlandish claims made by the wire fetishists." - Peter H-son 06:39:20 10/3/09 (3)

RE: "I'm talking about the outlandish claims made by the wire fetishists." - Analog Scott 09:36:26 10/3/09 (2)

RE: "I'm talking about the outlandish claims made by the wire fetishists." - Peter H-son 13:33:14 10/3/09 (1)

Well argued - Analog Scott 17:43:55 10/3/09 (0)

He apparently thinks that "Nobody is dumber that the idiots here" swing, that started the mayhem,... - carcass93 08:11:49 10/2/09 (1)

RE: He apparently thinks that "Nobody is dumber that the idiots here" swing, that started the mayhem,... - Peter H-son 06:55:40 10/3/09 (0)

RE: I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, it's true - kerr 10:46:46 09/30/09 (36)

Man, you don't understand... you HAVE TO PROVE something to him. N/T - carcass93 11:20:37 09/30/09 (0)

RE: I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, it's true - Donald North 11:15:17 09/30/09 (4)

A perfectly logical approach... - mkuller 11:18:24 09/30/09 (3)

RE: A perfectly logical approach... - Peter H-son 11:35:04 09/30/09 (2)

Looks like you also have... - mkuller 11:48:48 09/30/09 (1)

RE: Looks like you also have... - Peter H-son 11:58:58 09/30/09 (0)

RE: I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, it's true - Peter H-son 11:10:43 09/30/09 (29)

RE: I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, it's true - kerr 12:30:05 09/30/09 (25)

RE: I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, it's true - Pat D 09:32:07 10/2/09 (24)

RE: I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, it's true - kerr 10:21:44 10/2/09 (23)

RE: I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, it's true - Pat D 14:11:10 10/3/09 (22)

"the problems are to show that there are any audible differences and under what conditions." - Analog Scott 10/4/0910:44:07 10/4/09 (21)

No one says you can't enjoy your perceptions. - Pat D 18:59:24 10/5/09 (20)

looks to me like he asked you... - Analog Scott 08:29:21 10/6/09 (19)

RE: looks to me like he asked you... - Pat D 12:16:07 10/6/09 (18)

Then we come full circle - Analog Scott 14:44:16 10/6/09 (4)

You are totally confused. - Pat D 18:37:16 10/6/09 (3)

You aren't getting it and that makes me confused...... - Analog Scott 23:16:39 10/6/09 (2)

"Technical and scientific discussion of amps, cables and other topics." - Pat D 12:57:39 10/8/09 (1)

No I have no problem with that - Analog Scott 10:48:01 10/10/09 (0)

The answer is equally easy: it can, if you're willing to substantiate it for yourself. - carcass93 14:02:26 10/6/09 (12)

Life is too short. - Pat D 18:31:05 10/6/09 (11)

Where does posting silly demands of others for "proof" on this forum fit into that? - carcass93 08:29:33 10/7/09 (4)

I only ask if there is proof of extraordinary claims. - Pat D 10:37:34 10/7/09 (2)

Asked and aswered - there is. Just not for you. N/T - carcass93 12:53:41 10/7/09 (1)

You haven't indicated any proofs. (nt) - Pat D 16:03:47 10/10/09 (0)

Well, you have to admit he has a point - kerr 09:09:20 10/7/09 (0)

More like too busy posting demands for evidence on this forum... - morricab 01:52:15 10/7/09 (5)

I'm not the one making extraordinary claims about what I can hear. (nt) - Pat D 10:32:29 10/7/09 (4)

RE: I'm not the one making extraordinary claims about what I can hear. (nt) - morricab 00:54:04 10/8/09 (3)

"Technical and scientific discussion of amps, cables and other topics." - Pat D 13:43:47 10/8/09 (1)

RE: "Technical and scientific discussion of amps, cables and other topics." - morricab 02:26:35 10/9/09 (0)

Ah, there's the question! - kerr 04:46:07 10/8/09 (0)

Can you show me evidence... - mkuller 11:21:14 09/30/09 (2)

RE: Can you show me evidence... - Peter H-son 11:32:25 09/30/09 (1)

You got nothing - who's the wackjob? (nt) - mkuller 11:36:49 09/30/09 (0)

"attack on reason, skepticism, critical thinking and science" - you're wrong again. - carcass93 10:44:46 09/30/09 (0)

His two weapons are fear and surpise and - Analog Scott 10:16:29 09/30/09 (0)

What fallacy? - Tony Lauck 10:05:49 09/30/09 (0)

So if a peice of wire has different... - mkuller 09:59:53 09/30/09 (6)

RE: So if a peice of wire has different... - Peter H-son 10:17:59 09/30/09 (5)

"As far as we know" - you don't know too far then. BTW, "we" - you got helminths? - carcass93 10:35:18 09/30/09 (2)

RE: "As far as we know" - you don't know too far then. BTW, "we" - you got helminths? - Peter H-son 10:41:13 09/30/09 (1)

I thought their video was about the beliefs of the DBT pseudoscientists...(nt) - mkuller 10:58:00 09/30/09 (0)

"As far as we know..." - you got a mouse in your pocket? (nt) - mkuller 10:29:06 09/30/09 (1)

Judging by tone of his posts - it's helminths, indeed. Nasty ones, and lot of them. N/T - carcass93 11:22:30 09/30/09 (0)

"Nobody is dumber that the idiots here" - that's right, you're the dumbest of anti-audiophile idiots here. - carcass93 09:14:51 09/30/09 (2)

RE: "Nobody is dumber that the idiots here" - that's right, you're the dumbest of anti-audiophile idiots here. - Peter H-son 09:47:14 09/30/09 (1)

You don't have a point. - carcass93 10:12:20 09/30/09 (0)

Yeah, ironic talk about tribes, when his is the craziest .(nt) - Sordidman 10:35:06 09/29/09 (5)

IMO both fringes are on even ground when it comes to craziness and vitrole. nt - Analog Scott 12:44:56 09/29/09 (4)

Perhaps, but... - mkuller 20:42:18 09/29/09 (2)

Tell ya? Heck I'll show ya. - Analog Scott 08:05:26 09/30/09 (1)

I'd forgotten that episode.... - robert young 11:46:24 09/30/09 (0)

I hear that but - Sordidman 18:25:17 09/29/09 (0)

...and they like their DBT's only when they give them expected results (nt) - kerr 16:54:05 09/28/09 (2)

double word (nt) - Analog Scott 08:21:16 09/29/09 (0)

Word (nt) - Donald North 17:06:00 09/28/09 (0)

It is very easy to understand their beliefs - E-Stat 07:05:35 09/27/09 (15)

Along the same lines - their systems (E. Winer responds to ajinfla): - carcass93 11:52:53 09/28/09 (12)

Interestingly, AJinFLA already got into disagreement there (who could've thought?)... - carcass93 08:42:25 09/29/09 (9)

He may get bounced for disagreeing - kerr 09:33:27 09/29/09 (8)

This "LFO on LFO" violence must cease!!!! - Analog Scott 10:32:04 09/29/09 (6)

We can't have them fighting amongst themselves! - kerr 11:20:02 09/29/09 (5)

That's the - E-Stat 15:41:39 09/29/09 (2)

Gotta admit - kerr 15:53:54 09/29/09 (1)

Its definitely - E-Stat 16:24:33 09/29/09 (0)

Let's Go!!! - robert young 15:32:02 09/29/09 (1)

RE: Let's Go!!! - kerr 15:55:42 09/29/09 (0)

Absolutely. BTW, some stuff there is informative (especially if you haven't read it previous 100 times). - carcass93 09:48:25 09/29/09 (0)

Who said anything about a spigot? - E-Stat 16:59:04 09/28/09 (0)

RE: Along the same lines - their systems (E. Winer responds to ajinfla): - kerr 16:51:03 09/28/09 (0)

As you've always said... - kerr 13:24:33 09/27/09 (1)

It is truly perplexing! - E-Stat 15:42:54 09/27/09 (0)

Scavenging in the Toxic Waste Dump - Tony Lauck 08:04:17 09/26/09 (3)

RE: Scavenging in the Toxic Waste Dump - Pat D 10:21:28 09/26/09 (2)

RE: Scavenging in the Toxic Waste Dump - Tony Lauck 11:03:12 09/26/09 (1)

RE: Scavenging in the Toxic Waste Dump - geoffkait 09:42:23 09/27/09 (0)

And your evaluation of his blind test is? - Pat D 14:30:08 09/25/09 (8)

Considering your supposed mighty struggle comprehending English, I'm not sure you could... - carcass93 14:46:39 09/25/09 (7)

Apparently you didn't read the thread very well . . . - Pat D 15:24:18 09/25/09 (6)

You could easily answer all these questions yourself. - carcass93 08:56:52 09/28/09 (0)

RE: Apparently you didn't read the thread very well . . . - Analog Scott 20:12:05 09/25/09 (4)

Well, if you want to talk personalities . . . - Pat D 08:42:54 09/26/09 (3)

Spreading your wings Pat? - bjh 10:25:18 09/26/09 (0)

I guess I struck a nerve - Analog Scott 08:55:25 09/26/09 (1)

Well, that answers my question. (nt) - Pat D 16:38:26 10/3/09 (0)

RE: Blind listening test of power cords - and reactions to it. - kerr 10:16:33 09/25/09 (13)

Hydrogen Audio Is The Training Manuel For The LFOs On PHP - thetubeguy1954 13:45:50 09/26/09 (7)

RE: Hydrogen Audio Is The Training Manuel For The LFOs On PHP - Todd Krieger 19:28:05 09/28/09 (0)

I hope you have that backwards - kerr 15:11:31 09/26/09 (5)

Sadly I Don't Believe I Do... - thetubeguy1954 07:07:06 09/28/09 (4)

Their forum, their rules - kerr 06:10:11 09/29/09 (3)

"Their forum, their rules" ah that depends on who you are - Analog Scott 12:28:16 09/30/09 (2)

RE: "Their forum, their rules" ah that depends on who you are - kerr 16:55:14 09/30/09 (1)

yeah I didn't know about the unwritten rules - Analog Scott 22:24:31 09/30/09 (0)

I've had some real fun with them lately - Analog Scott 20:07:58 09/25/09 (1)

I've seen your posts there - kerr 06:09:17 09/26/09 (0)

BTW, one old friend popped up there, too. - carcass93 10:54:35 09/25/09 (1)

I saw his post - kerr 12:10:33 09/25/09 (0)

The Knights who say Ni. (nt) - Al Sekela 10:49:30 09/25/09 (0)

Follow Ups

"the problems are to show that there are any audible differences and under what conditions." - Analog Scott 10/4/0910:44:07 10/4/09 (21)

No one says you can't enjoy your perceptions. - Pat D 18:59:24 10/5/09 (20)

looks to me like he asked you... - Analog Scott 08:29:21 10/6/09 (19)

RE: looks to me like he asked you... - Pat D 12:16:07 10/6/09 (18)

Then we come full circle - Analog Scott 14:44:16 10/6/09 (4)

You are totally confused. - Pat D 18:37:16 10/6/09 (3)

You aren't getting it and that makes me confused...... - Analog Scott 23:16:39 10/6/09 (2)

"Technical and scientific discussion of amps, cables and other topics." - Pat D 12:57:39 10/8/09 (1)

No I have no problem with that - Analog Scott 10:48:01 10/10/09 (0)

The answer is equally easy: it can, if you're willing to substantiate it for yourself. - carcass93 14:02:26 10/6/09 (12)

Life is too short. - Pat D 18:31:05 10/6/09 (11)

Where does posting silly demands of others for "proof" on this forum fit into that? - carcass93 08:29:33 10/7/09 (4)

I only ask if there is proof of extraordinary claims. - Pat D 10:37:34 10/7/09 (2)

Asked and aswered - there is. Just not for you. N/T - carcass93 12:53:41 10/7/09 (1)

You haven't indicated any proofs. (nt) - Pat D 16:03:47 10/10/09 (0)

Well, you have to admit he has a point - kerr 09:09:20 10/7/09 (0)

More like too busy posting demands for evidence on this forum... - morricab 01:52:15 10/7/09 (5)

I'm not the one making extraordinary claims about what I can hear. (nt) - Pat D 10:32:29 10/7/09 (4)

RE: I'm not the one making extraordinary claims about what I can hear. (nt) - morricab 00:54:04 10/8/09 (3)

"Technical and scientific discussion of amps, cables and other topics." - Pat D 13:43:47 10/8/09 (1)

RE: "Technical and scientific discussion of amps, cables and other topics." - morricab 02:26:35 10/9/09 (0)

Ah, there's the question! - kerr 04:46:07 10/8/09 (0)

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