In Reply to: Re: Nice try!!!!! posted by theaudiohobby on December 23, 2006 at 14:03:11:
Hobby,You're becoming more like Pat D-Cake every passing day. Now you want to place your attributes on me? Let's go over this post of yours Hobby?
When I said that sometimes it's hard to face yourself and accept the truth huh, hobby? Apparently you do care what I think about your beloved Sharp digital amp. You asked me what "truth" is there to face? The "truth" is that digital amps aren't capable of replicating music that "sounds" like live unamplified music. That's the "truth" I was talking about. Except for the few who have mistaken the characteristic digital sound as somehow being correct, no one believes digital amps have succeeded in overcoming their quite obvious shortcomings when it comes to replicating music that "sounds" anything like live unamplified music. When that is combined with how expensive digital amps are for how little you get (their weight is not usually much) I'd feel ripped off paying thousands of dollars for a few LBS of parts that sound unlike what music truly "sounds" like when it's live unamplified music!
Then Hobby you espouse that I'm sitting on a technical discussion board, not saying much certainly nothing of technical value. When you're simply the pot calling the kettle black! For it's not beneath you to act the very same way. A perfect example of this would be when you stated, I'd hard pushed to find anything new to say about SETs that is objectively useful because it is an obsolete technology with as much relevance to SOTA as a steam engine i.e. a novelty and an oddity. I suppose you feel that comment is of some technical value, huh? But it's like you said, it always boils down to this when talking with people like yourself. In the longrun you're just attempting pass off your subjective opinion and value judgement on someone else. Yes that is pitiful Hobby, to blame and judge others for what you yourself do!
Now when I stated "I'll bet you've never heard the Mastersound Reference 845 amp so how could you know if you would or wouldn't like it?" I did that after you mistakenly stated you believed I'd never heard the Audiostatics, which I had. So as you questioned whether I heard your speakers I questioned if you had heard the Mastersound, which if IIRC has only 1 or 2 US dealers! To that you responded like a child would, "Neither have you heard the Sharp digital amplifier..." nah, nah na nah na! Next you follow that childish retort by claiming my asking that question when I've not heard the Sharp amp somehow means logic is not my strong point. How can you believe that statement is anything but absurd? Especially after you asked me (mistakenly) whether I'd ever heard the Audiostatics! I guess if asking such a question proves one doesn't use logic as strong point then logic isn't your strong point either huh, Hobby?
I believe what really bothers you Hobby is that many people have come over, listened to my setup and then told me how it's one of the best setups they've ever heard in anyone's home! See Hobby I NEVER ask anyone (except close audio friends) what they think of my system, the info is usually volunteered after I ask what the expression on their face means. Afterall the expression could mean they cannot stand what they hear just as easily as anything else, no? So I take my chances by asking. I believe it just kills you to own a $15K Sharp SM-SX100 digital integrated amplifier and not have people tell you that huh, so that's why you get so defensive! I suppose I can your audio defense mechinism. I can understand why it bothers you when after hearing an amp that costs 1/2 what yours does, has what you believe is copious amount of distortion and a much higher output impedance, which I suppose "could" be the facts, people who've heard it's proclaims it's capable of replicating music that truly "sounds" like live unamplified music. I can see why that would bother you. "IF" I spent the $15K Sharp SM-SX100 digital integrated amplifier costs it my system sounded like that I'd be upset as well!
Another defense mechanism I see is your need to believe that my friends and myself who have heard my system are being "polite" when they claim to like what they/we hear. Unlike yourself and the people you call friends, my friends and I don't lie to each other and call it politeness! You see Hobby we all want a system that is as capable of replicating music that truly "sounds" like live unamplified music as we can assemble. Thus we honestly tell each other what we do and don't like about what we hear when we listen to each others systems. So perhaps what they say does not negate the facts that SOME SET amps produce copious amount of distortion and have a much higher output impedance, but it DOES put any comment that comes from someone who hasn't heard my system, isn't my friend and certainly isn't out to help me have a system that capable of replicating music that truly "sounds" like live unamplified music, in its proper prespective doesn't it?
Finally for someone who constantly insists they are certainly not bothered about I think about their amplifier because they are doing the listening not me, I'd say it's an unlogical statement in light of your need to defend your choices and constantly have the last word. If you really didn't care, you would care about what I said and thus not respond to it! But like you said Hobby nice try from you though...
Thetubeguy1954
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Follow Ups
- Re: Nice try!!!!! - thetubeguy1954 12/27/0608:10:04 12/27/06 (3)
- Re: All this diatribes!!!!! - theaudiohobby 09:42:04 12/27/06 (2)
- Proved My Point! - thetubeguy1954 09:54:39 12/27/06 (1)
- Re: Lack of rational judgement - theaudiohobby 15:03:40 12/27/06 (0)