In Reply to: RE: I wanted to get some time on my new Cosecant V3 before waxing enthusiastic about it, but... posted by StateRadioFan on October 23, 2009 at 09:39:46:
None bigger than Peter Aczel, "reviewer" and publisher of The Audio Critic magazine:
"As I pointed out in the original review, more expensive DACs than the Benchmark give you absolutely nothing more in performance—you can’t outperform perfection. <...> That leaves the “pride of ownership†of five-figure audio jewelry to the orthopedic surgeons, hedge-fund managers, and drug dealers to whom the dollar sign is an index of listening quality."
"The old regulars know exactly my position regarding the stupidity of ascribing a “character†to the sound of an utterly neutral signal path. Oohing and aahing over the vast improvement in soundstaging, front-to-back depth, bass delineation, or treble sweetness obtainable with this or that electronic component may sell high-end magazines but is totally unscientific and delusional."
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- I'm sure he's not - but there are shitheads that DO suggest that, and much more. - carcass93 10/23/0910:11:30 10/23/09 (60)
- Let's watch the wholesale 'name calling', please? - Chris Garrett 10:37:13 10/24/09 (6)
- Let me remind you something (since you seem to forget easily): - carcass93 11:50:08 10/24/09 (5)
- I'm getting complaints about you daily.... - Chris Garrett 14:56:14 10/27/09 (4)
- Patterns... - carcass93 18:41:08 10/27/09 (3)
- Are you referring to me? - Chris Garrett 21:06:55 10/27/09 (2)
- I've never understood the propensity for throwing stones... - carcass93 11:39:13 10/28/09 (1)
- Man...you need some help. - Chris Garrett 20:30:36 10/29/09 (0)
- RE: I'm sure he's not - but there are shitheads that DO suggest that, and much more. - cfmsp 11:44:52 10/23/09 (52)
- RE: I'm sure he's not - but there are shitheads that DO suggest that, and much more. - Phelonious Ponk 11:57:05 10/23/09 (51)
- RE: I'm sure he's not - but there are shitheads that DO suggest that, and much more. - cfmsp 14:01:25 10/23/09 (45)
- RE: I'm sure he's not - but there are shitheads that DO suggest that, and much more. - Phelonious Ponk 19:36:47 10/23/09 (44)
- RE: I don't think the Benchmark should be viewed as a benchmark... - aljordan 06:05:29 10/24/09 (30)
- RE: I don't think the Benchmark should be viewed as a benchmark... - Phelonious Ponk 06:45:43 10/24/09 (29)
- RE: I don't think the Benchmark should be viewed as a benchmark... - theaudiohobby 09:39:43 10/26/09 (14)
- RE: I don't think the Benchmark should be viewed as a benchmark... - Phelonious Ponk 15:27:22 10/26/09 (0)
- "deliberate alteration of the signal as a goal" - where's evidence that it was a goal? - carcass93 12:01:43 10/26/09 (12)
- RE: "deliberate alteration of the signal as a goal" - where's evidence that it was a goal? - Phelonious Ponk 15:50:18 10/26/09 (11)
- RE: "deliberate alteration of the signal as a goal" - where's evidence that it was a goal? - Ebit 22:12:30 10/26/09 (10)
- RE: "deliberate alteration of the signal as a goal" - where's evidence that it was a goal? - Phelonious Ponk 03:44:56 10/27/09 (8)
- RE: "deliberate alteration of the signal as a goal" - where's evidence that it was a goal? - aljordan 12:19:55 10/27/09 (7)
- RE: "deliberate alteration of the signal as a goal" - where's evidence that it was a goal? - Phelonious Ponk 14:51:48 10/27/09 (6)
- You do realize that substituting "resampling to 110 KHz" or "usage of op-amps in output stage"... - carcass93 15:24:59 10/27/09 (3)
- RE: You do realize that substituting "resampling to 110 KHz" or "usage of op-amps in output stage"... - Phelonious Ponk 17:27:17 10/27/09 (2)
- Syntax is fine; message is anything but. - carcass93 18:59:33 10/27/09 (1)
- RE: Syntax is fine; message is anything but. - Phelonious Ponk 19:16:17 10/27/09 (0)
- RE: "deliberate alteration of the signal as a goal" - where's evidence that it was a goal? - aljordan 15:08:39 10/27/09 (1)
- RE: "deliberate alteration of the signal as a goal" - where's evidence that it was a goal? - Phelonious Ponk 17:14:08 10/27/09 (0)
- RE: "deliberate alteration of the signal as a goal" - where's evidence that it was a goal? - theaudiohobby 02:41:17 10/27/09 (0)
- You don't own one? That explains a lot. - carcass93 18:24:02 10/25/09 (12)
- RE: The answer to your question is in the thread - theaudiohobby 04:11:59 10/26/09 (11)
- Follow the context - that way, you could avoid your usual problem understanding. - carcass93 06:09:39 10/26/09 (10)
- RE: Follow the context - that way, you could avoid your usual problem understanding. - theaudiohobby 08:25:36 10/26/09 (9)
- Comeback? No - it's my attempt to deal... - carcass93 08:31:45 10/26/09 (8)
- RE: Comeback? No - it's my attempt to deal... - theaudiohobby 08:35:10 10/26/09 (7)
- I'm flattered - your #1, #2 and #3 posts in Computer Audio are responses to mine. - carcass93 09:02:42 10/26/09 (3)
- RE: A change of tact , trying your hand at a bit of obfuscation - theaudiohobby 09:15:41 10/26/09 (2)
- I have fun, believe me. I hope you don't mind that it's at your expense. N/T - carcass93 09:46:23 10/26/09 (1)
- RE: If your responses on propheads is anything to go by... - theaudiohobby 10:13:14 10/26/09 (0)
- I'm surprised you're so upset over it... But come back for more, anytime. - carcass93 08:48:28 10/26/09 (2)
- RE: I'm surprised you're so upset over it... - theaudiohobby 08:59:26 10/26/09 (1)
- Oops... add #4 to that - as articulated and useful as ever. N/T - carcass93 09:07:54 10/26/09 (0)
- RE: thanks for the clarification - aljordan 06:55:49 10/24/09 (0)
- Oh, but the Benchmark is colored - ForgotPassword 20:20:10 10/23/09 (12)
- RE: Oh, but the Benchmark is colored - Phelonious Ponk 21:03:04 10/23/09 (11)
- Cool. So you prefer the Benchmark's colorization. - ForgotPassword 21:30:39 10/23/09 (10)
- RE: Cool. So you prefer the Benchmark's colorization. - Phelonious Ponk 03:03:03 10/24/09 (9)
- If a piece of gear imparts its sonic signature to the system - ForgotPassword 03:32:58 10/24/09 (8)
- RE: If a piece of gear imparts its sonic signature to the system - cfmsp 08:11:47 10/24/09 (1)
- RE: If a piece of gear imparts its sonic signature to the system - rick_m 09:14:29 10/24/09 (0)
- RE: If a piece of gear imparts its sonic signature to the system - rick_m 05:41:53 10/24/09 (5)
- I agree mostly with what you said, especially "the one you like the best is the best". - ForgotPassword 06:42:01 10/24/09 (4)
- RE: I agree mostly with what you said, especially "the one you like the best is the best". - cfmsp 09:55:12 10/24/09 (0)
- RE: I agree mostly with what you said, especially "the one you like the best is the best". - Phelonious Ponk 08:37:39 10/24/09 (0)
- RE: "every time we add the Benchmark to a chain..." - rick_m 08:21:48 10/24/09 (1)
- RE: "every time we add the Benchmark to a chain..." - Mercman 08:33:26 10/24/09 (0)
- "performance against benchmarks" - what in the world are you talking about? - carcass93 13:22:16 10/23/09 (0)
- RE: I'm sure he's not - but there are shitheads that DO suggest that, and much more. - AudioDoctor 12:50:51 10/23/09 (1)
- RE: I'm sure he's not - but there are shitheads that DO suggest that, and much more. - Phelonious Ponk 19:31:00 10/23/09 (0)
- RE: I'm sure he's not - but there are shitheads that DO suggest that, and much more. - Mercman 12:28:24 10/23/09 (1)
- RE: I'm sure he's not - but there are shitheads that DO suggest that, and much more. - fmak 22:16:36 10/23/09 (0)