In Reply to: True multi-channel home theater posted by E-Stat on September 14, 2023 at 14:50:23:
. . . certainly ain't where it's at.
OTOH, I have a discrete 5.1.4 set up (i.e., ten speakers, six amplifiers), and, for me, discrete Dolby Atmos immersive is a whole new world of realism in my (classical) listening experience, even though the streaming resolution on Apple Music is lossy (yes, lossy!) 24/48. I would much rather have the spatial replication improved to the astounding degree which Dolby Atmos makes possible than try to eke out some additional resolution from analog recordings from back in the 60's which are already well within the limits of 24/96 PCM.
And finally, I DISagree with your assertion that "immersive audio" that is entirely *derived* from stereo content is like every other phase/channel difference trick scheme that's been around for decades. Hardly. Not only has processing power been growing exponentially, but algorithms have been getting more clever (for decades!). Moreover, multi-microphoning has been going on for so long that these discrete channels, which fed into the 2Ch masters, now allow for plenty of possibilities for new, improved mixes which were simply not possible when we were confined to stereo.
For example, almost all the web critics and print critics I know of have raved about the new Dolby Atmos remasters of Wagner's Ring Cycle, conducted by Georg Solti. They say that the current Dolby Atmos incarnation is absolutely the best these recordings have ever sounded - really unparalleled sound quality. And this is a series of recordings from the late 50's and early 60's!
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Siegfried - part of the latest remastered Solti Ring Cycle from the 60's. Even on the SACD shown here (with "only" five channels),
it blows away its previous incarnations. Dolby Atmos takes it to the next level.
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Follow Ups
- I agree that Dolby Atmos though ear buds or headphones. . . - Chris from Lafayette 09/14/2317:12:51 09/14/23 (37)
- To each his own - E-Stat 17:40:51 09/14/23 (36)
- RE: To each his own - Chris from Lafayette 18:14:54 09/14/23 (35)
- RE: To each his own - E-Stat 18:25:18 09/14/23 (34)
- "I know the process" - Chris from Lafayette 18:53:02 09/14/23 (33)
- RE: "I know the process" - E-Stat 19:13:19 09/14/23 (32)
- I'm well aware of that - if you'll check back in this thread. . . - Chris from Lafayette 00:33:22 09/15/23 (31)
- Enjoy the algorithms! -nt - E-Stat 05:45:40 09/15/23 (30)
- Will do - in the meantime, I highly recommend. . . - Chris from Lafayette 11:44:07 09/15/23 (29)
- Sorry - E-Stat 12:27:43 09/15/23 (28)
- And people don't fly around you on classical Dolby Atmos recordings either - Chris from Lafayette 15:51:53 09/15/23 (27)
- The guy who developed Dolby Atmos was on CBS Sunday Morning show. It - oldmkvi 08:09:23 09/16/23 (13)
- Like this... - E-Stat 06:41:56 09/17/23 (11)
- Atmos can isolate every instrument, put them anywhere . - oldmkvi 08:37:20 09/17/23 (10)
- "Clearly a gimmick to me" - Chris from Lafayette 12:10:50 09/17/23 (0)
- The claim goes further... - E-Stat 09:17:06 09/17/23 (8)
- So what you're really saying is. . . - Chris from Lafayette 12:04:22 09/17/23 (7)
- Perhaps you might - E-Stat 13:14:18 09/17/23 (4)
- Although I've posted pics of my individual components. . . - Chris from Lafayette 01:10:03 09/18/23 (3)
- Not looking for stock photos - E-Stat 08:01:48 09/22/23 (2)
- Understood - I'll get to it [nt] - Chris from Lafayette 10:25:25 09/22/23 (1)
- Four months later - E-Stat 12:11:50 01/27/24 (0)
- "crippled 2Ch Dolby Atmos" - pbarach 13:04:56 09/17/23 (1)
- My own 5.1.4 set up is not optimally placed itself - Chris from Lafayette 01:14:49 09/18/23 (0)
- "A Symphonic Program Live in a Hall isn't Immersive" - Chris from Lafayette 10:45:56 09/16/23 (0)
- Too funny! - E-Stat 16:35:17 09/15/23 (12)
- Now you're back to thinking that you know Dolby Atmos. . . - Chris from Lafayette 00:54:09 09/16/23 (4)
- RE: Now you're back to thinking that you know Dolby Atmos. . . - E-Stat 13:57:14 09/16/23 (3)
- I didn't miss either of those posts - Chris from Lafayette 01:23:01 09/17/23 (2)
- Keep arguing Y to the wall - E-Stat 06:09:22 09/17/23 (1)
- OK - so maybe we actually AGREE! ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 11:49:21 09/17/23 (0)
- This thread is a great illustration... - mlsstl 18:17:39 09/15/23 (6)
- After my "To each his own" post - E-Stat 18:45:28 09/15/23 (5)
- LOL! Sure, stop the thread after YOUR post! ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 00:31:17 09/16/23 (3)
- If you're gonna hop on a thread with E-Stat... - Ivan303 05:32:38 09/16/23 (2)
- Here's what I do, long before it hits the limit of a 10 inch Monitor .................. - Cut-Throat 15:39:50 09/16/23 (1)
- We've just about reached the limit of my 13 in. Retna MacBook Pro... - Ivan303 15:53:33 09/16/23 (0)
- RE: "I simply can't imagine limiting myself to a single music genre." - Ivan303 19:30:48 09/15/23 (0)