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Where shall I start

Posted by orejones on October 7, 2004 at 03:09:01

In Reply to: I had a long reply typed out and ready for submission and then I got disconnected, so... posted by Chris Garrett on October 6, 2004 at 12:18:53:

I´ll try to answer in an orderly way, here:

1- It all started with your denigratory comments about jaiva´s ability to make sense of an article, saying that he was just paying attention to "the headlines and capsules", as your interpretation of what Rumsfeld had said, and later tried to deny having said, was different from his. Your words: "The Secretary stated that a link between Saddam and OBL, personally, was dubious. Not between Saddam and AQ."

To that, I have provided the original article, the one with the full declarations Rumsfeld had made, and from it I posted the exact question, which was: "Mr. Secretary, what exactly was the connection between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda?"

"Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda", Chris. Not "Saddam Hussein and OBL"

2- You asked me to provide an answer about why the '93 bomber was living openly in Baghdad. I don´t know, maybe he liked the place... I know well that you are insinuating that the fact of having that terrorist (who may have been linked to Al Qaeda: I don´t know, and I see no problem in accepting that link) living there, automatically links Saddam to Al Qaeda..., but that bucket holds no water, as a single swallow makes not the summer come: a single man looking for shelter because he is being sought by the same country that had put Saddam on his knees a couple of years earlier would be more than welcome by that bastard; while cooperation with a group working on the basis of religious fanaticism trying to destroy secularism to implant religious government over the whole ME would be suicidal...

3- You ask me to supply any material to support my statement about the hate Saddam and OBL professed towards each other..., and then you, so kindly, open the door wide open for me, when you say that you are "... asking people to connect the dots or make a leap of faith based on a modicum of logic. AQ, the Taliban and Afghanistan are an example of "strong links".

Thank you very much for your kind help! The dots to connect here are: a) Saddam was a smart, ruthless tyrant, despotically ruling over the most secular country in the whole ME; b) Al Qaeda was (and still is) a terrorist group trying to wipe secularism away from the zone, to implant theocratic governments; c) OBL's fanaticism is exclusive, not inclusive: that means that they won´t accept co-ruling, what implies that, if accepted by Saddam inside his country, the logical conclusion would be that Saddam would be displaced from government, with a theocratic government, and sharia' ruling there. Given these undisputable premises, and following the rules of a very basic Logic, the only viable conclusions would be that to the eyes of Saddam OBL and his organization were a dangerous enemy to be hated and feared..., and that to the eyes of OBL and his gang Saddam, and his secular state, were to be hated and destroyed, sooner or later.

That is my proof of the existing hate between both bastards. No leap of faith needed.

3- Now you start to lose the grip on your own line, as you are including other people, other terrorist groups..., which were not in Rumsfeld´s answer to that question. They are all terrorists, and Saddam never was a bad guy..., but now your reasoning starts to follow the lines of Mr. Bush´s, making a compact pudding of every terrorist and his uncle, to justify his more than dubious behaviour.

And I can not be accused of being narrowminded, as I am looking at quite a few sides, both from present, past, and even future implications, of the problem.

Terrorists need being fought. But there are ways to do that which are more efficient than invading a defenseless country which was not an immediate danger, and killing and maiming their people while devastating the whole country: don´t expect any gratitude from them for that "altruistic" behaviour...

Regards

BF

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