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In Reply to: Why is it that it is always the atheists that want to bring God into the conversation? posted by artemus on March 9, 2004 at 10:18:45:
Especially atheists. In their hearts, I think atheists are so unsure of their beliefs that they continually need to talk about it, always pointing out the "foolishness" of the theist, which makes them feel good about their beliefs, in turn reinforcing their conviction that man is god.Personally, I DON'T CARE if someone wants to believe that there is no God, so why do atheists care so much what I believe?
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Religion and "god"... - Dr. Draz 09:04:55 03/9/04 (176)
- What kind of shrink are you, if I may ask? Behaviorist, NLPer, Freudian.,.., or a Provocative Therapist à la Farrelli? - orejones 08:54:39 03/10/04 (2)
- Please Clarify [nt] - Dr. Draz 09:17:13 03/10/04 (1)
- Which part didn´t you understand? (nt) - orejones 09:47:25 03/10/04 (0)
- What happened when you were 11? (nt) - davewe 08:43:44 03/10/04 (0)
- "just because i believe, - mark111 16:23:32 03/9/04 (0)
- Nice argument, Draz - Bruce from DC 14:57:13 03/9/04 (3)
- Why Do YouAssume Ignorance Because Of A Disparate Point Of View... - Dr. Draz 15:19:11 03/9/04 (2)
- You are the "weak" and "lonely" . . . - albee33 20:48:26 03/9/04 (1)
- "out smart yourself with powers of reasoning"...OK...Now I See... - Dr. Draz 06:01:18 03/10/04 (0)
- You the guy who said a local dad was running a "prison camp" for his kid? And then... - clarkjohnsen 14:47:33 03/9/04 (1)
- Right On Both Counts Clark... - Dr. Draz 15:22:02 03/9/04 (0)
- Re: Religion and "god"... - hexenboden 13:35:03 03/9/04 (2)
- Thoughtful And reasoned Response... - Dr. Draz 13:45:31 03/9/04 (1)
- Re: Thoughtful And reasoned Response... - hexenboden 14:33:12 03/9/04 (0)
- >"...if they would but open their eyes and be willing to do some work to truly help themselves."< It has been said - Tinnitus 13:08:40 03/9/04 (0)
- And Speaking Of "Christians"... - Dr. Draz 12:06:08 03/9/04 (27)
- The academic term for what Christianity calls "communion" or the "Eucharist" is "ritual cannibalism" - Dave VH 14:38:34 03/9/04 (0)
- Re: And Speaking Of "Christians"... - Brian A 12:18:07 03/9/04 (25)
- Subject: Maybe I'm Too Stupid to Understand What "Eating His Flesh And Drinking His Blood" Means... - Dr. Draz 12:32:30 03/9/04 (24)
- You're the one calling others morons - Brian A 12:38:44 03/9/04 (23)
- No...I'm Calling All People Who Believe In A "Higher Power" Weak, Ignorant Morons...If The Shoe fits, Wear It [nt] - Dr. Draz 12:47:45 03/9/04 (22)
- What was your grandparents' faith? - hexenboden 13:38:19 03/9/04 (21)
- Jewish [nt] - Dr. Draz 13:46:25 03/9/04 (20)
- Re: Jewish [nt] - hexenboden 14:41:56 03/9/04 (19)
- It's hard to be a Jew - ToshiroMeyers 15:59:32 03/9/04 (10)
- What A Hypocrite!... - Dr. Draz 17:09:51 03/9/04 (9)
- You are so full of shit - ToshiroMeyers 17:52:03 03/9/04 (8)
- You Really Are The Ultimate Joke Here... - Dr. Draz 06:05:24 03/10/04 (1)
- At least I don't believe in Nothing... - ToshiroMeyers 08:08:30 03/10/04 (0)
- Be respectful - hexenboden 18:26:56 03/9/04 (5)
- This Clown's No Brother Of Mine...He's A Joke... - Dr. Draz 06:07:28 03/10/04 (4)
- I'm a joke? - ToshiroMeyers 08:00:42 03/10/04 (3)
- Easter Ham...Are You Too Stupid NotTo Have Gathered That I'm An Atheist...I Denounce ALL Religions... - Dr. Draz 08:20:20 03/10/04 (0)
- Ham on motzah -- Yummy! nt - clarkjohnsen 08:17:31 03/10/04 (1)
- How About I Pee In You "Holy Water?" [nt] - Dr. Draz 08:23:25 03/10/04 (0)
- Re: Jewish [nt] - Dr. Draz 15:08:26 03/9/04 (6)
- Re: Jewish [nt] - hexenboden 15:50:32 03/9/04 (5)
- You're some BAAAAD Dude - Brian A 16:41:56 03/9/04 (4)
- Beg your pardon... - hexenboden 17:30:15 03/9/04 (2)
- Re: Beg your pardon... - Brian A 10:00:59 03/10/04 (1)
- Oh, thank you. (nt) - hexenboden 10:59:17 03/10/04 (0)
- LOL - PabloP 17:03:16 03/9/04 (0)
- Jewish 2 - hexenboden 14:44:49 03/9/04 (0)
- Re: Religion and "god"... - Charlie_L 11:23:43 03/9/04 (1)
- And many... - hexenboden 13:39:36 03/9/04 (0)
- Re: Racial Equality and Blacks - Brian A 11:14:56 03/9/04 (11)
- Re: Racial Equality and Blacks - hexenboden 13:42:26 03/9/04 (2)
- WAKE UP !!! - Brian A 13:45:43 03/9/04 (1)
- Ooops (nt) - hexenboden 14:43:40 03/9/04 (0)
- Your Words Sir, Not Mine... - Dr. Draz 11:20:16 03/9/04 (7)
- Re: Your Words Sir, Not Mine... - Brian A 11:22:19 03/9/04 (6)
- Only In Your Distorted World...And My Attack Was Not On "Christians," But On All Belief In "god" [nt] - Dr. Draz 11:25:23 03/9/04 (5)
- Re: Only In Your Distorted World...And My Attack Was Not On "Christians," But On All Belief In "god" [nt] - Brian A 11:32:49 03/9/04 (4)
- There You Go...Now You've Got It! [nt] - Dr. Draz 11:36:47 03/9/04 (3)
- Careful doc. Atheism is considered a religion by US Supreme Court, along with secular humanism - artemus 11:42:47 03/9/04 (2)
- Hmm, The First International Church Of Atheism...Kind Of Interesting Ring To It [nt] - Dr. Draz 11:47:53 03/9/04 (1)
- Re: Sounds pretty good, and... - Dave-A 12:28:58 03/9/04 (0)
- I would recommend - mishmashmusic 10:37:03 03/9/04 (28)
- My Beef With "Christians"... - Dr. Draz 11:23:19 03/9/04 (27)
- Re: My Beef With "Christians"... - hexenboden 13:46:03 03/9/04 (15)
- Wow...Nice Fancy Footwork There, But... - Dr. Draz 13:56:16 03/9/04 (5)
- Re: How little you know of Christian teachings... - Rafe 14:14:45 03/9/04 (1)
- So...Let Me See, There's "Virtue" In Believing Things That Have ABSOLUTELY Zero Basis In Demonstrable Fact... - Dr. Draz 15:11:18 03/9/04 (0)
- Re: Wow...Nice Fancy Footwork There, But... - hexenboden 14:13:00 03/9/04 (2)
- thanks For The Offer But I Really Don't Need Any "Guidance" [nt] - Dr. Draz 15:13:11 03/9/04 (1)
- You're welcome ;) (nt) - hexenboden 15:55:08 03/9/04 (0)
- Again with the fear angle - Mike_D 13:53:31 03/9/04 (8)
- Re: Again with the fear angle - hexenboden 14:23:18 03/9/04 (7)
- Re: Again with the fear angle - Mike_D 16:57:14 03/9/04 (6)
- Re: Again with the fear angle - hexenboden 17:43:10 03/9/04 (5)
- Re: Again with the fear angle - Mike_D 17:56:57 03/9/04 (4)
- Re: Again with the fear angle - hexenboden 18:41:53 03/9/04 (2)
- I love you too, hexidecimal! - Mike_D 19:05:25 03/9/04 (1)
- Thank you - hexenboden 07:35:21 03/10/04 (0)
- Link here - Mike_D 17:58:14 03/9/04 (0)
- Re: My Beef With "Christians"... - Shipguy 12:52:14 03/9/04 (1)
- Sorry, But That's What's "Out There" [nt] - Dr. Draz 12:58:06 03/9/04 (0)
- Romans 11 - artemus 11:35:18 03/9/04 (8)
- Re: Romans 11 - hexenboden 14:01:52 03/9/04 (6)
- I would suggest that we are in agreement and that I may have chosen better terms - artemus 16:32:57 03/9/04 (1)
- Hey - hexenboden 18:44:32 03/9/04 (0)
- Re: I also wonder sometimes about the fate of... - Rafe 14:25:00 03/9/04 (0)
- Same Boat Here - Brian A 14:09:21 03/9/04 (2)
- Well that's convenient - Mike_D 17:42:09 03/9/04 (1)
- Re: Well that's convenient - Brian A 09:38:07 03/10/04 (0)
- Thank You For A Thoughtful And Reasoned Response [nt] - Dr. Draz 11:41:48 03/9/04 (0)
- Always the same half-baked condescension... - Shipguy 10:28:57 03/9/04 (4)
- These Days It's hard To Distinguish Beween The USA and The Taliban... - Dr. Draz 11:52:15 03/9/04 (2)
- Re: If you really have this problem... - Rafe 12:16:39 03/9/04 (0)
- Re: These Days It's hard To Distinguish Beween The USA and The Taliban... - HiFi Guy 12:09:19 03/9/04 (0)
- Good point s <NT> - artemus 10:48:44 03/9/04 (0)
- Why is it that it is always the atheists that want to bring God into the conversation? - artemus 10:18:45 03/9/04 (16)
- You used to be an atheist? What happened...head injury? nt - tom1356 12:00:08 03/9/04 (4)
- I'll take that as humor. I could say sumpin like head injury at 3 and then came to my senses, but I think what happened - artemus 12:13:20 03/9/04 (3)
- Artemus, asking questions? Does he ever get the answers? - Mike_D 12:19:58 03/9/04 (2)
- Yes Mikey. Yer the first cause. Everything comes from you. I told you. I've seen the light and yer it. - artemus 12:57:43 03/9/04 (1)
- Decaf. Give it a try. <nt> - Mike_D 13:08:18 03/9/04 (0)
- All men seek God... - Marshall W 03/9/0411:29:55 03/9/04 (0)
- There wouldn't be a problem if Christians would stay out of politics - Mike_D 10:56:25 03/9/04 (9)
- Insert any other "group" name into that statement above - mishmashmusic 11:14:31 03/9/04 (2)
- None of those other groups is actively trying to destroy our free society - Mike_D 11:35:33 03/9/04 (1)
- According to some, the blacks were trying to destroy our free society in the 60's, the women in the teens, the Jews..... - artemus 12:00:25 03/9/04 (0)
- Yep, thats what they said about women, blacks and Jews too. But hey, I'm on yer side now. - artemus 11:12:48 03/9/04 (4)
- Hey...Where Do I Fit In In This New Administration?... - Dr. Draz 11:17:46 03/9/04 (3)
- Re: Hey...Where Do I Fit In In This New Administration?... - HiFi Guy 11:27:57 03/9/04 (2)
- I Wouldn't want To Take That Lofty Position Away From You [nt] - Dr. Draz 11:35:19 03/9/04 (1)
- Re: I Wouldn't want To Take That Lofty Position Away From You [nt] - HiFi Guy 12:12:44 03/9/04 (0)
- Re: There wouldn't be a problem if Christians would stay out of politics - HiFi Guy 11:10:33 03/9/04 (0)
- Re: Religion and "god"... - PabloP 10:07:10 03/9/04 (6)
- OK, Let Me See...So I First Believed In A Democratic Way Of Life And Freedom At Six... - Dr. Draz 10:48:29 03/9/04 (4)
- All children believe in democracy and freedom - PabloP 11:47:18 03/9/04 (1)
- OK, Let's See... - Dr. Draz 12:08:34 03/9/04 (0)
- Uh Oh Pablo. I think you lost this debate. He said yer stoopid. and you had no debating skills. - artemus 11:00:32 03/9/04 (1)
- Must be true, since I didn't know it was a debate - PabloP 11:23:08 03/9/04 (0)
- Bullseye, Pablo-good post nt - padreken 10:19:10 03/9/04 (0)
- You aren't alone; your opinions are well informed. (nt) - Audiophilander 09:59:34 03/9/04 (3)
- That's only because you're as full of it as he is. - Shorted Turn. 15:49:09 03/9/04 (2)
- Tsk, tsk! Still fascinated with the enlightenment you receive every time you touch the 3rd rail? - Audiophilander 16:33:52 03/9/04 (0)
- Well David, I See You're Quite The Wordsmith... - Dr. Draz 15:57:26 03/9/04 (0)
- Re: Best wishes to you and... - Rafe 09:53:54 03/9/04 (13)
- No - Crimson 10:03:28 03/9/04 (0)
- There Is Not The Slightest Doubt In My Mind... - Dr. Draz 10:00:35 03/9/04 (0)
- What I find amusing (in a sick sort of way) - Mike_D 10:00:08 03/9/04 (9)
- Re: No No No... - Rafe 10:18:26 03/9/04 (8)
- A conversion coming from attrition is perfectly valid, even if not of the same value as one from contrition - orejones 10:25:45 03/9/04 (6)
- Re: You must have been a Catholic at some time. - Rafe 10:33:51 03/9/04 (5)
- And what makes Protestant faith to be any better than the Catholic one? - orejones 11:02:40 03/9/04 (3)
- Re: I never said one was better than the other. - Rafe 12:13:01 03/9/04 (0)
- Re: And what makes Protestant faith to be any better than the Catholic one? - HiFi Guy 11:17:01 03/9/04 (0)
- "and once you are dead your family can rescue you from Purgatory by ordering -and paying for- masses... - Dr. Draz 11:14:44 03/9/04 (0)
- A musical interlude - PabloP 10:40:22 03/9/04 (0)
- Well I certainly agree with that... - Mike_D 10:23:10 03/9/04 (0)
- Maybe if you are there, holding his hand when the moment comes... - orejones 09:59:29 03/9/04 (0)
- Just a few - Crimson 09:41:41 03/9/04 (9)
- Re: Just a few - hexenboden 14:58:26 03/9/04 (6)
- Prior to which - Crimson 15:37:55 03/9/04 (0)
- Re: Just a few - Brian A 15:16:50 03/9/04 (4)
- I Think You Knowledge Of genocidal History Is A little Rusty... - Dr. Draz 15:51:08 03/9/04 (1)
- Re: I Think You Knowledge Of genocidal History Is A little Rusty... - Brian A 15:57:21 03/9/04 (0)
- 'Godless Communism' - Crimson 15:39:33 03/9/04 (1)
- Re: 'Godless Communism' - Brian A 15:53:44 03/9/04 (0)
- Absolutely Brilliant Post!!!... - Dr. Draz 09:58:18 03/9/04 (1)
- Please -- don't praise him, it will only encourage him! - Tinnitus 10:04:40 03/9/04 (0)
- Re: Religion and "god"... - HiFi Guy 09:18:58 03/9/04 (2)
- A Few More Dollars For The Truly Needy... - Dr. Draz 09:53:06 03/9/04 (1)
- Re: A Few More Dollars For The Truly Needy... - HiFi Guy 10:09:46 03/9/04 (0)
- This deity issue is a fundamental solution to the outside equation, its period is less than a day. - Lord Dot 09:16:42 03/9/04 (28)
- Re: This deity issue is a fundamental solution to the outside equation, its period is less than a day. - HiFi Guy 10:00:24 03/9/04 (0)
- Lordy, but you do seem impressed with yourself. Grunt, grunt,click,click,click! <grunt> - Tinnitus 09:44:05 03/9/04 (26)
- Your posts, on the other hand, are moist and chewy, like day old road kill warming in the sun. - Lord Dot 09:52:09 03/9/04 (25)
- Hmmm? You mean, "slightly more educated philosophical discussions. The latter (albeit often muddled) is my shtick."? - Tinnitus 10:01:29 03/9/04 (11)
- I guess my other shtick is just being a smart ass. Must be all the bad drugs :/ :\ :/ :\ - Lord Dot 10:17:16 03/9/04 (10)
- So long as you're having a good time. Life's too short to sweat the small stuff. However, - Tinnitus 10:34:21 03/9/04 (7)
- Re: So long as you're having a good time. Life's too short to sweat the small stuff. However, - HiFi Guy 12:16:47 03/9/04 (6)
- >"...homemade wine."< Now there's a hobby I need to explore. - Tinnitus 12:23:39 03/9/04 (5)
- Re: >"...homemade wine."< Now there's a hobby I need to explore. - HiFi Guy 12:34:07 03/9/04 (4)
- Oh I See...So You're A Bootlegger too... - Dr. Draz 12:50:31 03/9/04 (2)
- Re: Oh I See...So You're A Bootlegger too... - HiFi Guy 12:56:02 03/9/04 (1)
- Re: Oh I See...So You're A Bootlegger too... - Brian A 14:06:27 03/9/04 (0)
- Thanks. I'll look into 'Winemakers.' ;- ) <nmt> - Tinnitus 12:42:59 03/9/04 (0)
- You open the wrong doors of perception, and look what gets in. - dennzio 10:29:15 03/9/04 (1)
- Maybe even Firesign Theatre -- then, all is lost! The next thing you know, he'll be wearing a red clown nose... - Tinnitus 10:39:34 03/9/04 (0)
- Stop eating road kill, for the love of Mike. (nt - dennzio 10:00:05 03/9/04 (12)
- I'll quit when they pry my cold, dead hand from my last 'sail possum'! - Tinnitus 10:12:53 03/9/04 (2)
- Little Lord Fauntleroy don't know nuthin about good roadkill. - dennzio 10:26:19 03/9/04 (1)
- Aha -- a fellow connoisseur! I salute your discriminating taste ;- ) <nmt> - Tinnitus 10:44:45 03/9/04 (0)
- I know you love me, dennzio. - Mike_D 10:07:06 03/9/04 (8)
- Lay your palm and his forehead and say - "The power of nothing compels you!! The power of nothing compels you!!" nt - Lord Dot 10:14:24 03/9/04 (7)
- Mu. (nt - dennzio 10:17:54 03/9/04 (6)
- Is'nt "Mu" a Buddhist concept? - Mike_D 10:27:17 03/9/04 (5)
- Ah, grasshopper, you are a keen one. - dennzio 10:30:52 03/9/04 (4)
- Well then, something about union of opposites - Mike_D 10:38:07 03/9/04 (3)
- Re: Well then, something about union of opposites - dennzio 10:58:38 03/9/04 (2)
- My Beef With "Christians"... - Dr. Draz 11:11:50 03/9/04 (1)
- Thanks for sharing, but..... - dennzio 11:19:29 03/9/04 (0)
- I couldn't possibly agree more! - Mike_D 09:13:15 03/9/04 (0)
Follow Ups
- All men seek God... - Marshall W 03/9/0411:29:55 03/9/04 (0)