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In Reply to: "been there done that and the dog won't hunt this time" -- you even poop cliches NT posted by Jazz Inmate on February 19, 2013 at 10:33:14:
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Why is Obama whining about sequestration into a microphone in front of cameras? - Jazz Inmate 07:44:09 02/19/13 (143)
- To get people talking. It’s worked, look, Obama has even got you off the bus … - three_sox 15:29:13 02/19/13 (0)
- For public support and pressure... - mkuller 12:11:25 02/19/13 (1)
- Dems begged for this deal so they wouldn't have to break a sweat . . . - mr grits 13:09:07 02/19/13 (0)
- Dang, you get "The Day After President's Day" off as well? - Ivan303 11:25:32 02/19/13 (1)
- Just look at the mess... - mkuller 12:26:06 02/19/13 (0)
- "...earnestly working with Congress" - Jazz Cheerleader's euphemism for capitulation to the Liptonaryans. - Audiophilander 10:27:18 02/19/13 (2)
- "been there done that and the dog won't hunt this time" -- you even poop cliches NT - Jazz Inmate 10:33:14 02/19/13 (1)
- Cliches are the only means of communication folks of your ilk understand. (nt) - Audiophilander 02/19/1322:18:48 02/19/13 (0)
- To indirectly influence members of House and Senate, as other Pres of the past have - Edp 09:17:54 02/19/13 (17)
- Reagan and Tip O'Neill figured out how to work together productively. There's no reason Obama can't establish - Jazz Inmate 10:00:53 02/19/13 (16)
- Oh please - badman 11:57:26 02/19/13 (14)
- So this absolves Obama of working with Congress? NT - Jazz Inmate 12:22:08 02/19/13 (13)
- Without framing his issues - badman 12:32:49 02/19/13 (12)
- "... there's no legitimacy to blaming him." Not so fast there. - Edp 12:45:09 02/19/13 (10)
- well, that's a cherrypicked quote if there ever was one - badman 12:54:11 02/19/13 (9)
- In these parts, "criticism" means unconditional, blanket hate; "approval" means unconditional, blanket love. n - jdaniel@jps.net 13:40:35 02/19/13 (0)
- oh please. You're mindlessly adopting a narrative straight out of leftie op ed pieces NT - Jazz Inmate 12:55:38 02/19/13 (7)
- I'll let you know - badman 12:58:02 02/19/13 (6)
- what then? Maddow? NT - Jazz Inmate 12:59:57 02/19/13 (5)
- If I watched TV - badman 13:15:19 02/19/13 (4)
- so where do you get your news? osmosis? NT - Jazz Inmate 14:19:07 02/19/13 (3)
- Indeed - badman 14:28:46 02/19/13 (2)
- can't say? NT - Jazz Inmate 15:36:11 02/19/13 (1)
- It's entirely possible - badman 17:48:28 02/19/13 (0)
- They got along alright: Raising payroll taxes. The O'neill/Reagan "Bromance" cliche.... - jdaniel@jps.net 12:37:44 02/19/13 (0)
- Yes, congressional Democrats have historically worked with Republican Presidents.... - rditmars 11:43:08 02/19/13 (0)
- Shining the spotlight on the truly dysfunctional--you clearly don't like that approach--sometimes helps to get - jdaniel@jps.net 09:15:14 02/19/13 (22)
- Obama is truly dysfunctional. So are you NT - Jazz Inmate 09:17:38 02/19/13 (21)
- How so? Supporting data? nt - jdaniel@jps.net 09:19:39 02/19/13 (20)
- because you're both BS spewers extraordinaire NT - Jazz Inmate 09:24:00 02/19/13 (19)
- But don't you think your opinions should be supported with data? Were you not incorrect about Feanor? nt - jdaniel@jps.net 09:25:53 02/19/13 (18)
- You're a music major. You know nothing about data NT - Jazz Inmate 10:01:47 02/19/13 (17)
- Do you feel comfortable making that assessment when you were wrong about Feanor? t - jdaniel@jps.net 10:20:25 02/19/13 (16)
- I'm right about Feanor. He bashes Israel almost exclusively here and his posting history proves it NT - Jazz Inmate 10:32:28 02/19/13 (15)
- Can you follow my example and post some data backing up your claim? And you still haven't addressed your - jdaniel@jps.net 10:46:54 02/19/13 (14)
- You don't post data. You post bullshit. Here's some of Feanor's posting history--you're too stupid to remember - Jazz Inmate 10:50:41 02/19/13 (13)
- But does that mean he "loves" Terrorists? nt - jdaniel@jps.net 10:55:32 02/19/13 (12)
- he's certainly adopting their stance on Israel NT - Jazz Inmate 11:57:44 02/19/13 (11)
- But does that mean he "loves" Terrorists. Do you feel you elevate the discourse this way? nt - jdaniel@jps.net 12:05:23 02/19/13 (10)
- He and you would say "no"...I would say "yes". One thing is clear, however - Jazz Inmate 12:18:59 02/19/13 (9)
- Then you've wasted your time and my time this morning, and the humiliation you cause yourself will sadly - jdaniel@jps.net 12:24:15 02/19/13 (8)
- Take responsibility for your posts. YOU wasted your time this morning and humiliated yourself NT - Jazz Inmate 13:13:12 02/19/13 (7)
- I did take responsibility; I showed you Feanor's statement which shows a more complex view than your little - jdaniel@jps.net 13:20:31 02/19/13 (6)
- 'atsa lie. I took the time to show YOU his posting history. You were blissfully unaware NT - Jazz Inmate 14:20:04 02/19/13 (5)
- God god McJ-zz: it's how you interpreted it and conclusions you drew vis a vis False Dichotomy. Criticism of - jdaniel@jps.net 15:34:25 02/19/13 (4)
- It was beyond criticism of Israel. He wants Israel destroyed, showed exclusive hatred of Israel in his posting - Jazz Inmate 15:39:18 02/19/13 (3)
- Destroyed? He did? And is it still logical to claim that one "loves" Terrorists? nt - jdaniel@jps.net 15:42:07 02/19/13 (2)
- I showed you exactly what he posted, including his posts saying that Israel should not exist - Jazz Inmate 16:04:53 02/19/13 (1)
- Yeah, "should not exist" but is he saying he wants it destroyed now? Or is he strenuously criticizing? And did - jdaniel@jps.net 16:09:03 02/19/13 (0)
- obama's about to lay another one at your party's feet. - j_thunders 09:09:52 02/19/13 (0)
- Never before in our history has the MSM become a WH propaganda machine . . . - mr grits 08:29:22 02/19/13 (8)
- Well, at least not since the last guys were in the WH... - Ivan303 08:42:43 02/19/13 (6)
- Nothing is worse than selling an empty suit to the American public as a savior . . . - mr grits 12:43:51 02/19/13 (4)
- Why do you suggest he's an empty suit? Examples? n - jdaniel@jps.net 12:49:05 02/19/13 (3)
- before becoming Pres, no exec experience, no military experience, no foreign policy experience - Jazz Inmate 13:06:52 02/19/13 (1)
- So...by your definition, you're an empty suit too. Another non sequitur, bereft of framing and perspective - jdaniel@jps.net 13:43:28 02/19/13 (0)
- He's an empty suit - badman 12:55:50 02/19/13 (0)
- MSNBC...lmao. Now there are an unbiased pool of lefties NT - Jazz Inmate 10:07:27 02/19/13 (0)
- Yes. Exactly! The nerve of the people knowing truth when they hear it. - tom1356 08:34:09 02/19/13 (0)
- He's a bullshit artist, that's all he knows. nt - jqunac 08:18:52 02/19/13 (39)
- amazing so many fools in this country can be duped - Jazz Inmate 08:26:40 02/19/13 (0)
- Wow another one.... - Dave-A 08:24:10 02/19/13 (37)
- Tell me what does Obama believe, during his campaign he said sequestration would not happen. nt - jqunac 08:39:04 02/19/13 (36)
- Typical diversion tactic.... - Dave-A 09:34:12 02/19/13 (0)
- Obama couldn't lead his way out of a paper bag NT - Jazz Inmate 09:18:26 02/19/13 (34)
- Yet he leads you around on a leash. You are his pet. He says jump and you jump. - tom1356 09:51:10 02/19/13 (30)
- Obama leads me around on a leash. Wow, you're even more cuckoo than jdumpypants NT - Jazz Inmate 10:02:50 02/19/13 (29)
- Do you disagree with the data I provided re: Feanor? nt - jdaniel@jps.net 10:23:41 02/19/13 (28)
- you provide nothing that qualifies as data. Now if you're interested in Feanor's history about Israel... - Jazz Inmate 10:43:59 02/19/13 (27)
- But you said he "loved" terrorists. I provided you a quote which contradicts your impulsive claim. How do - jdaniel@jps.net 10:48:34 02/19/13 (26)
- He takes the terrorists' position against Israel, our ally. It follows that he loves terrorists - Jazz Inmate 10:51:51 02/19/13 (25)
- But by the contradictory quote I provided, he doesn't "love" terrorists, and it seems as though you don't - jdaniel@jps.net 10:54:51 02/19/13 (24)
- he has adopted the terrorists' position; clearly there is something in him that loves it - Jazz Inmate 10:59:35 02/19/13 (23)
- "...bringing their old evil ways to a new country"...Does this not suggest a complexity that you're loath or - jdaniel@jps.net 11:02:04 02/19/13 (22)
- You're too stupid to reach meaningful conclusions. That's why you love grey area NT - Jazz Inmate 11:08:07 02/19/13 (21)
- Hitler hated grey areas. One either loves or hates: you see why I obsess over the logical fallacies you - jdaniel@jps.net 11:12:29 02/19/13 (20)
- Godwin's law: you lose! NT - Jazz Inmate 11:14:35 02/19/13 (19)
- Do you feel that hiding behind Godwin's Law helps you grow? Did Hitler embrace/exploit the False Dichotomy to - jdaniel@jps.net 11:17:44 02/19/13 (18)
- I invoked a common rule of internet forums: the first to invoke hitler in a conversation loses! NT - Jazz Inmate 11:19:05 02/19/13 (17)
- Did he not exploit the false dichotomy? nt - jdaniel@jps.net 11:19:57 02/19/13 (16)
- he isn't the subject and the fact that you brought him up proves your point is unwinnable NT - Jazz Inmate 11:21:03 02/19/13 (15)
- It was won a long time ago. You embraced a false dichotomy. I was giving you an example of why you shouldn't - jdaniel@jps.net 11:25:40 02/19/13 (14)
- trying to compare ideas to hitler in a desperate attempt to gain the upper hand in internet discussions is not - Jazz Inmate 11:35:59 02/19/13 (13)
- Logic stands on it's own. There is no desperation. False dichotomies are often used to dispense with grey - jdaniel@jps.net 11:42:54 02/19/13 (12)
- then let it stand and stop making an ass of yourself NT - Jazz Inmate 12:25:01 02/19/13 (11)
- I was reaching-out, I'm sorry. t - jdaniel@jps.net 12:35:05 02/19/13 (10)
- no you weren't. You were obsessing over me as usual NT - Jazz Inmate 12:53:42 02/19/13 (9)
- I'm obsessing your your exploitation of False Dichotomy, a variant of Absolutism. nt - jdaniel@jps.net 13:22:03 02/19/13 (8)
- no, that's your lie for the past couple hours. You've been obsessed with me for months now NT - Jazz Inmate 15:40:12 02/19/13 (7)
- Did you *not* exploit a false Dichotomy for selfish purposes rather than respecting Logic? nt - jdaniel@jps.net 15:43:32 02/19/13 (6)
- No, I did not. I posted my opinion based on someone's posting history that you are too clueless to understand - Jazz Inmate 16:06:17 02/19/13 (5)
- Yes, you did. Criticism of one entity doesn't imply "Love" of another. It's a false Dichotomy. nt - jdaniel@jps.net 16:10:51 02/19/13 (4)
- Of course it does when no criticism of the terrorist entity is offered over a long period of time - Jazz Inmate 17:00:28 02/19/13 (3)
- I defend Logic. No it looks like you've jumped to non-sequitur. If one doesn't criticize, it doesn't follow - jdaniel@jps.net 18:00:32 02/19/13 (2)
- Nonsense. You tilt at windmills and think you're noble NT - Jazz Inmate 18:21:00 02/19/13 (1)
- LOL, you deleted "quixotic" as of course defined: pursuit of the unreachable. With that, I bow-out. nt - jdaniel@jps.net 18:23:46 02/19/13 (0)
- Polly want a quacker? - Dave-A 09:35:25 02/19/13 (1)
- Polly IS a quacker. * - kata 07:25:16 02/20/13 (0)
- Do you feel you're ready to make such an assessment when you were too impulsive to check upon what Feanor has - jdaniel@jps.net 09:27:22 02/19/13 (0)
- You seem to know as much about the process... - Dave-A 08:09:56 02/19/13 (5)
- Nothing has changed since '05. nt - jdaniel@jps.net 08:51:13 02/19/13 (0)
- Thanks for being an Obamaphool.....you have put the noose around your own neck. * - mr grits 08:31:08 02/19/13 (1)
- I see you finally.... - Dave-A 10:15:04 02/19/13 (0)
- Yes, he doesn't appreciate how a democracy works. nt - Norm 08:26:36 02/19/13 (0)
- when you have something substantial to add, let me know NT - Jazz Inmate 08:10:53 02/19/13 (0)
- Who would he negotiate with? The party of no? The do nothing congress? - tom1356 07:57:55 02/19/13 (28)
- the idiot journalists have programmed you well NT - Jazz Inmate 08:08:21 02/19/13 (27)
- Yes...those problematic facts you despise and ignore. Sorry we know the truth here. nt - tom1356 08:15:43 02/19/13 (26)
- you obviously can't distinguish fact from ideologic spin NT - Jazz Inmate 08:16:56 02/19/13 (25)
- LOL, obviously I can. nt - tom1356 08:36:17 02/19/13 (24)
- you're giddy with delusion NT - Jazz Inmate 08:48:13 02/19/13 (23)
- Giddy? Do you see himimpulsively posting incorrect assessments regarding Feanor's views on Terrorists? - jdaniel@jps.net 09:21:12 02/19/13 (22)
- you're interested in "data"...go search Feanors posting history admonishing Israel vs other countries - Jazz Inmate 10:04:34 02/19/13 (21)
- Now you're moving to a non-sequitur? Does criticism of one entity automatically mean one condones another? nt - jdaniel@jps.net 10:22:34 02/19/13 (20)
- you brought up Feanor and "data"...my post followed logically from yours, jdumbell NT - Jazz Inmate 10:34:04 02/19/13 (19)
- No, we're trying to help you with your logical fallacy: does criticism of one entity mean one automatically - jdaniel@jps.net 10:50:21 02/19/13 (18)
- wrong. You and the voices in your head are spewing nonstop bullshit. Just stop it, jdumbell NT - Jazz Inmate 10:54:22 02/19/13 (17)
- Do we stop all logical thinking--so hard won--just because it "disturbs" you? nt - jdaniel@jps.net 10:56:35 02/19/13 (16)
- take it up with all the other people you think you speak for, obsessed one NT - Jazz Inmate 11:01:57 02/19/13 (15)
- But they get it, you don't. nt - jdaniel@jps.net 11:04:24 02/19/13 (14)
- "they" are voices in your head. You need to let go of your obsessions NT - Jazz Inmate 11:09:23 02/19/13 (13)
- "They" are the scientific community. You don't have much of a reverence for science, do you? nt - jdaniel@jps.net 11:14:01 02/19/13 (12)
- So now the voices in your head are the scientific community? You really need psychiatric help NT - Jazz Inmate 11:18:17 02/19/13 (11)
- So you're saying that Science has advanced by embracing illogic and ego over humbly acknowledging Logic, however - jdaniel@jps.net 11:22:24 02/19/13 (10)
- never said that. Time for you to admit you're resorting to pure, unadulterated BS nt - Jazz Inmate 11:23:49 02/19/13 (9)
- You're living it this morning. Throw logic out the window because your ego gets in the way. nt - jdaniel@jps.net 11:27:58 02/19/13 (8)
- you are hardly a good spokesperson for logic and my ego pales in comparison - Jazz Inmate 11:38:31 02/19/13 (7)
- After 30 replies, do you have a data-backed defense for my claim that you exploited a false dichotomy? nt - jdaniel@jps.net 11:44:32 02/19/13 (6)
- I'm not buying your false-premise claim NT - Jazz Inmate 11:54:52 02/19/13 (5)
- It wasn't a false premise: you claimed he "loved" terrorists because he is critical of Israel. Do you feel - jdaniel@jps.net 12:04:34 02/19/13 (4)
- noooo...I observed that he was critical of Israel exclusively in ways that mirrored terrorist objectives... - Jazz Inmate 12:07:05 02/19/13 (3)
- But does that mean he "loves" Terrorists? Why do you flatten everyone and everything into child-like two- - jdaniel@jps.net 12:17:19 02/19/13 (2)
- Sometimes people don't realize what they love. You, for example, seem quite out of touch w yourself NT - Jazz Inmate 12:23:36 02/19/13 (1)
- Whereas you touch yourself far too much! (nt) - badman 17:44:59 02/19/13 (0)
- The voice of hyprocrisy weighs in yet again. NT - J.R. 07:49:12 02/19/13 (8)
- He just cannot believe that Obama won reelection. - Norm 08:04:20 02/19/13 (6)
- I predicted he'd win more than a year ago and my posting history proves it, ya senile old bat NT - Jazz Inmate 08:09:19 02/19/13 (5)
- So what! Your behavior suggests your great disappointment and your eccentric behavior. - Norm 12:00:23 02/19/13 (2)
- So that contradicts the lie you just told. That's what NT - Jazz Inmate 12:54:31 02/19/13 (1)
- Sorry, I don't understand this. nt - Norm 16:41:34 02/19/13 (0)
- I predicted he'd win more than five years ago and again a year ago. - tom1356 08:39:30 02/19/13 (1)
- no one lied about your predictions, jagoff NT - Jazz Inmate 08:41:43 02/19/13 (0)
- indeed you have NT - Jazz Inmate 07:51:06 02/19/13 (0)
Follow Ups
- Cliches are the only means of communication folks of your ilk understand. (nt) - Audiophilander 02/19/1322:18:48 02/19/13 (0)