In Reply to: When you say "the climax", do you mean the end? posted by Chris from Lafayette on August 31, 2016 at 09:24:37:
First, on Vanska - I have owned the SACDs since first issuance. A few years back I tuned into KDFC during the first movement of the Pastorale, and thought to myself, wow, the tempo, the phrasing, the balance is PERFECT, and was unsurprised to hear at the end that it was Vanska and Minnesota.
On Toscanini - Lang says first, about the last movement (in general)"the final movement rises to a magnificent climax. Beethoven pushes to the base of the peak, but only on the third try does he scale it; this is an unforgettable moment" and then says about the Toscanini performance "the great climax, which Toscanini did so magnificently in the concert hall, does not come off", a judgement with which I concur.
If I read my Dover score correctly, this comes about 35 bars before the end of the symphony, and the rest of the music is a simple wind down that climax - kind of a restful coda, almost like a prayer. Not a big bang ending to this symphony.
But IMO, not like Bruckner, which just seems to stop with two final chords.
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Follow Ups
- More detail - TGR 08/31/1611:11:12 08/31/16 (7)
- But the last two chords in the Pastoral are marked fortissimo - Chris from Lafayette 11:48:07 08/31/16 (6)
- yes, but - TGR 11:54:40 08/31/16 (5)
- Still more - Chris from Lafayette 12:39:50 08/31/16 (2)
- You mean rests are not notes? - TGR 13:11:33 08/31/16 (1)
- So when you listen to the end of the Pastoral Symphony on a recording. . . - Chris from Lafayette 15:22:51 08/31/16 (0)
- More - Chris from Lafayette 12:35:16 08/31/16 (0)
- I never said it was the climax - it's very Brucknerian however [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 12:27:40 08/31/16 (0)