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First, on Vanska - I have owned the SACDs since first issuance. A few years back I tuned into KDFC during the first movement of the Pastorale, and thought to myself, wow, the tempo, the phrasing, the balance is PERFECT, and was unsurprised to hear at the end that it was Vanska and Minnesota.

On Toscanini - Lang says first, about the last movement (in general)"the final movement rises to a magnificent climax. Beethoven pushes to the base of the peak, but only on the third try does he scale it; this is an unforgettable moment" and then says about the Toscanini performance "the great climax, which Toscanini did so magnificently in the concert hall, does not come off", a judgement with which I concur.

If I read my Dover score correctly, this comes about 35 bars before the end of the symphony, and the rest of the music is a simple wind down that climax - kind of a restful coda, almost like a prayer. Not a big bang ending to this symphony.

But IMO, not like Bruckner, which just seems to stop with two final chords.


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