In Reply to: 30.7 For Condo's at Quintessence Audio in Chicago: TitaniumTroy version posted by TitaniumTroy on December 14, 2019 at 18:52:56:
These are only problems if one allows inherent design issues to dictate the final result. Compromise to achieve a more satisfying musical experience factors into buying any speaker system. A lot of it comes down to available space and budget.
Why would one choose to spend "XXX" to achieve "N" when you can achieve similar or better results by just spending "X" for less pricy version of the speaker system that includes amp "S" with subwoofer ""H", speaker stand "M" choosing room "Y" as a listening room, etc. Leaving out room treatments and front end gear the "N" goal (nirvana) is just as accessible.
I've heard the big four through my Maggie system done better than any other speaker system, and not just on selected jazz, chamber music and female vocalists (not that all of these don't sound remarkable too).
Full disclosure, my listening preferences include dynamic rock and orchestral. I wouldn't be happy with a speaker system that failed to satisfy my tastes in music. I enjoy deep bass, and while it's true Maggies don't do deep bass well, that part of the octave spectrum can easily be achieved throu integrating the right subwoofer (coordinated with room size and node treatments where desired).
With 3.7i model Maggies, care in selection of associated gear, trial & error listening room adjustments, etc., I've written off all four of the arguable limitations Maggie critics usually point out ...loudness, dynamics, deep bass and bass impact.
There is a point to all this, BTW. How much does a music lover really need to spend to achieve their musical goals. Forgetting everything else ...including space considerations which are a reasonable concern for placing any speaker system... the bottom line really comes down to value and affordability.
Undoubtably the New entry level Maggies are a bargain even given their own limitations, but where is the price point for a speaker line being promoted as "30.7 for Condos?" And what kind of associated gear will be needed to attain the rich level of satisfaction desired?
My Maggies ended up being about 1/4 of my total investment, all well spent with satisfying results. I'm just curious, if that ratio holds true for this new demo system line, what will the final price tag be when balanced against Magnepan's other fine speaker lines? What's next, ...Time Share Gear to go with 30.7 for Condos?
What I'm reading is that under carefully set-up conditions, these new speakers sound remarkable. I'm not trying to throw cold water on that or suggest that this is just hyperbole, but it would be nice to have some idea of what baseline cost is suggested to achieve this level of quality. How does this compare with trying to build a satisfying system with other well established models and the gear and room treatment related fixes for inherent weaknesses?
Hopefully my musings here won't tick off folks who are enthusiastic about this new demo entry in Maggies fine line of speakers. I'm just curious if other Magneplanar owners are the least bit dubious of the claims given their own experiences.
AuPh
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