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RE: Prove it

Most of these issues there is a sliding scale of views of abortion.

Some folks believe the beginning of life is at conception - the catholic church has for years (Mother Theresa has said so on stage) that condoms should not be used. Others have said they are unsafe to get people to stop using them. School districts have tied funding to abstinence-only education. Now you can rightly argue that this is not the majority of the right wing - that it is only the Catholics who have this hard-line view but they do make up what 6 or 7 of the Supreme court judges? So it's not great to have a very small minority group wielding the majority of power. And if 7 of the 9 were hard line Sharia Muslims you would be 100% agreeing with me but because they are Catholic and in the same ballpark as Christians, Anglicans, Methodists and all others using the same Bible you don't see it as that big of a problem.

Then you have Christians on the other end of the Pro-life spectrum who are totally fine with the Pill, Condoms and abortion if the mother would die without one and in cases of rape or incest. These people are against abortion on demand and believe that a baby can be put up for adoption. I am in this camp - I don't think abortion should be a lazy person's form of birth control. But then I don't care where I personally stand on the issue because it's not me - people should have the right to make healthcare decisions for themselves whether I like it or not. Science has put in place various standards and timelines for when an abortion is allowed. The US actually has more loose standards in this regard than other countries so I could see the US tightening that up so if if it is 22 weeks in say France but 29 weeks in the US - then change it to 22 or whatever the numbers should be.

I agree that the left cries the sky is falling a lot - too much so that when the sky is actually falling they are taken as seriously as the boy who cried wolf - and we know what happened to him.

I think the issue the left is more bothered by is that like many class warfare issues - the rich white woman impregnated by her rich white Republican boyfriend who says he is against abortion will pay to fly her to a state or country that will abort the baby - hush hush while the poor black woman is forced to have a baby and be stuck in poverty - and I think you can agree that in general Republicans are not real big on paying "more" taxes to help said poor black woman raise that baby.

They'll pay to build a wall/war or give Bezos a tax break but "helping poor black babies" is not real high on the agenda.

I am pro-life in the sense that I would want women to carry their child to term and put it up for adoption. It would seem quite easy for all the rich white Republican audiophiles on this board who buy $150k stere systems to be for a program that say helps cover the costs of women to bring the child to term - you know food and maybe help them when their rich White American Boss fires her because she got pregnant. Maybe you know be a good Christian and HELP her cover some costs and then when the baby is born put up some money and maybe ADOPT the baby and raise it so it is not just born but actually lives.

Maybe instead of buying the $150,000 Mercedes you adopt a baby, save a life, and buy a Toyota Camry - and best of all the car will be FAR more reliable. But nah - just be angry and spiteful - definitely something Jesus would do.






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