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In Reply to: I'm ambivalent. posted by ghost of olddude55 on November 17, 2021 at 11:24:01:
Having said that if he had NOT brought the gun, HE would be dead. Would have been beaten to a pulp with the skateboard OR shot by the other guy with a gun. Personally, I think he should and will do time just on lesser charges. Which is appropriate.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Justice Prevails - BillH 09:15:25 11/17/21 (134)
- RE: Justice Prevails - Inmate51 07:59:29 11/19/21 (0)
- yes, he was just a 17 YO punk idiot who deserves the chair - Story 14:01:39 11/18/21 (36)
- RE: yes, he was just a 17 YO punk idiot who deserves the chair - rivervalley817 14:30:29 11/18/21 (35)
- RE: yes, he was just a 17 YO punk idiot who deserves the chair - ornery 04:49:03 11/19/21 (24)
- RE: yes, he was just a 17 YO punk idiot who deserves the chair - rivervalley817 09:44:41 11/19/21 (10)
- RE: yes, he was just a 17 YO punk idiot who deserves the chair - ornery 15:31:43 11/19/21 (0)
- RE: yes, he was just a 17 YO punk idiot who deserves the chair - pictureguy 11:38:18 11/19/21 (2)
- RE: yes, he was just a 17 YO punk idiot who deserves the chair - rivervalley817 11:55:59 11/19/21 (1)
- RE: yes, he was just a 17 YO punk idiot who deserves the chair - pictureguy 12:40:22 11/19/21 (0)
- "that crossed state lines" - rodge827 10:39:34 11/19/21 (5)
- RE: "that crossed state lines" - ornery 16:18:58 11/21/21 (0)
- Crossing state lines can invoke Federal jurisdiction - raingerz 16:00:04 11/21/21 (0)
- RE: "that crossed state lines" - rivervalley817 10:49:51 11/19/21 (2)
- RE: "that crossed state lines" - rodge827 10:59:41 11/19/21 (1)
- RE: "that crossed state lines" - rivervalley817 11:26:25 11/19/21 (0)
- RE: yes, he was just a 17 YO punk idiot who deserves the chair - BillH 07:04:44 11/19/21 (1)
- RE: yes, he was just a 17 YO punk idiot who deserves the chair - ornery 15:29:23 11/19/21 (0)
- yes you are right - Story 05:05:24 11/19/21 (10)
- Problem with the way Fox frames issue: if you're against vigilantism then you're siding with the rioters... - jdaniel@jps.net 09:39:13 11/19/21 (2)
- there's a problem there - Story 09:59:11 11/19/21 (1)
- RE: there's a problem there - jdaniel@jps.net 10:25:43 11/19/21 (0)
- "Of all the networks I watch Fox the most...." Gee, never woulda guessed. nt - Rick W 07:56:05 11/19/21 (3)
- "Gee, never woulda guessed " - Story 08:16:37 11/19/21 (2)
- Haven't seen much evidence of you understanding anything of import. nt - Rick W 08:25:30 11/19/21 (1)
- no I wouldn't expect you to - Story 08:30:44 11/19/21 (0)
- Well put gents - rodge827 05:35:16 11/19/21 (2)
- RE: Well put gents - Inmate51 08:33:56 11/19/21 (1)
- RE: Well put gents - rivervalley817 09:48:59 11/19/21 (0)
- fine and yes - Story 14:45:08 11/18/21 (9)
- RE: fine and yes - rivervalley817 15:33:52 11/18/21 (4)
- RE: fine and yes - Story 15:44:25 11/18/21 (3)
- RE: fine and yes - rivervalley817 15:56:26 11/18/21 (2)
- RE: fine and yes - Story 16:02:18 11/18/21 (1)
- RE: fine and yes - rivervalley817 17:38:19 11/18/21 (0)
- Didn't he kill arsonists and armed mob members - Wojciech 15:23:22 11/18/21 (3)
- RE: Didn't he kill arsonists and armed mob members - rivervalley817 15:42:22 11/18/21 (0)
- RE: Didn't he kill arsonists and armed mob members - Story 15:30:55 11/18/21 (1)
- RE: Didn't he kill arsonists and armed mob members - rivervalley817 15:44:31 11/18/21 (0)
- RE: Justice Prevails - fantja 13:46:28 11/18/21 (0)
- RE: Justice Prevails - Chris from Lafayette 01:33:57 11/18/21 (14)
- RE: Justice Prevails - tweaker456 09:05:05 11/18/21 (13)
- Oh come on. You know rabid, violent crowds always pull back at the last minute and say, "just kidding" : ) - jdaniel@jps.net 13:26:20 11/18/21 (6)
- "rabid, violent crowds" - Chris from Lafayette 13:53:21 11/18/21 (5)
- RE: "rabid, violent crowds" - rivervalley817 14:18:50 11/18/21 (2)
- And then the "quiet" types, hiding among the useful idiots - jdaniel@jps.net 14:32:55 11/18/21 (1)
- RE: And then the "quiet" types, hiding among the useful idiots - rivervalley817 15:28:25 11/18/21 (0)
- Seriously? You realize everyone you're trying to mislead can watch the videos. - jdaniel@jps.net 13:58:26 11/18/21 (1)
- RE: Seriously? You realize everyone you're trying to mislead can watch the videos. - rivervalley817 14:23:19 11/18/21 (0)
- RE: Justice Prevails - BillH 10:46:38 11/18/21 (3)
- Bullhorn or not, the punishment is far in excess of the crime - Chris from Lafayette 13:35:46 11/18/21 (2)
- RE: Bullhorn or not, the punishment is far in excess of the crime - BillH 05:27:59 11/19/21 (0)
- A lot of those 5150 types were already punished by being called "special" and then two hours later condemned - jdaniel@jps.net 13:55:57 11/18/21 (0)
- Those things may be true, tweak, but. . . - Chris from Lafayette 09:46:04 11/18/21 (1)
- RE: Those things may be true, tweak, but. . . - rivervalley817 10:52:22 11/18/21 (0)
- RE: Justice Prevails - tweaker456 20:23:28 11/17/21 (0)
- RE: Justice Prevails - ornery 20:09:57 11/17/21 (0)
- RE: Justice Prevails - RGA 16:31:19 11/17/21 (9)
- RE:examples? - ornery 20:16:41 11/17/21 (3)
- RE:examples? - RGA 04:52:26 11/18/21 (2)
- RE:examples? - ornery 17:59:37 11/18/21 (0)
- RE:examples? - gadio4533 08:25:05 11/18/21 (0)
- RE: Justice Prevails - Wojciech 17:13:28 11/17/21 (4)
- RE: Justice Prevails - pictureguy 19:53:39 11/17/21 (0)
- RE: Justice Prevails - RGA 18:42:35 11/17/21 (2)
- RE: Justice Prevails - Wojciech 19:08:29 11/17/21 (1)
- RE: Justice Prevails - RGA 22:00:54 11/17/21 (0)
- I did officer training with a little prick like Rittenhouse... - Jim Pearce 14:13:56 11/17/21 (2)
- RE: I did officer training with a little prick like Rittenhouse... - ornery 20:14:36 11/17/21 (0)
- That's a bit harsh, Sounds to me that he was just trying to prove himself. It's what men do, though I - jdaniel@jps.net 19:52:04 11/17/21 (0)
- my baby drove up in a Cadillac - Story 10:21:21 11/17/21 (2)
- Thanks for that ... - bjh 18:32:48 11/17/21 (1)
- RE: Thanks for that ... +1 - Story 01:58:08 11/18/21 (0)
- Not necessarily for "The Shaman"... - dark_dave56 10:08:09 11/17/21 (0)
- RE: Justice Prevails - fredtr 09:48:25 11/17/21 (3)
- Too bad the girl died - Goober58 10:30:43 11/17/21 (2)
- RE: Too bad the girl died - tweaker456 11:32:30 11/17/21 (1)
- +1 nt. - dee eye why 11:54:24 11/17/21 (0)
- I wouldn't have sent the Shaman to prison. - ghost of olddude55 09:36:27 11/17/21 (38)
- I'm not losing any sleep over it - Goober58 14:19:59 11/18/21 (0)
- We could send him to Pamplona to be with his own kind. nt - viridian 20:06:40 11/17/21 (0)
- Problem is, these are the kind of people who did Hitler's dirty work. nt - jdaniel@jps.net 20:01:32 11/17/21 (0)
- Neither would I... - dark_dave56 12:40:23 11/17/21 (0)
- RE: I wouldn't have sent the Shaman to prison. - BillH 09:45:37 11/17/21 (33)
- Nope. - ghost of olddude55 10:45:03 11/17/21 (0)
- RE: I wouldn't have sent the Shaman to prison. - tweaker456 10:00:53 11/17/21 (31)
- Tweak, there's a family... - ghost of olddude55 11:26:30 11/17/21 (30)
- The injustice is the pharma dick getting off, not putting that asshole "Shaman" in jail. nt - Rick W 12:50:20 11/17/21 (1)
- Yuuuup! nt - ghost of olddude55 13:10:39 11/17/21 (0)
- RE: Tweak, there's a family... - tweaker456 12:12:23 11/17/21 (0)
- +1 Agreed (nt) - TWB 11:31:33 11/17/21 (26)
- We put too damned many people in jail as it is. - ghost of olddude55 11:45:07 11/17/21 (25)
- Two wrongs don't make a right - Dave_K 03:33:46 11/18/21 (9)
- Sorry - but that's just a typical overstatement of what actually happened - Chris from Lafayette 10:06:26 11/18/21 (8)
- We're not prosecuting the people who only demonstrated - Dave_K 11:57:15 11/18/21 (0)
- RE: Sorry - but that's just a typical overstatement of what actually happened - rivervalley817 11:16:04 11/18/21 (4)
- Stick to the subject, please - Chris from Lafayette 13:51:17 11/18/21 (3)
- RE: Stick to the subject, please - rivervalley817 14:03:16 11/18/21 (2)
- Ah yes! Give him three and a half years because he's. . . - Chris from Lafayette 14:32:08 11/19/21 (1)
- RE: Ah yes! Give him three and a half years because he's. . . - rivervalley817 14:46:24 11/19/21 (0)
- RE: Sorry - but that's just a typical overstatement of what actually happened - tweaker456 10:20:32 11/18/21 (0)
- Facepalm opportunity. - MWE 10:17:07 11/18/21 (0)
- RE: We put too damned many people in jail as it is. - tweaker456 12:14:47 11/17/21 (12)
- Until it gets to your neighborhood... - dark_dave56 12:28:34 11/17/21 (7)
- Life in prison or the death penalty for taking a shit on the floor of the Capitol? - ghost of olddude55 12:35:38 11/17/21 (6)
- No, I'm referring to the "other protesters"... - dark_dave56 12:43:50 11/17/21 (5)
- RE: No, I'm referring to the "other protesters"... - tweaker456 13:20:59 11/17/21 (1)
- +1. nt - tinear 11:11:31 11/18/21 (0)
- Kill or injure... - ghost of olddude55 13:03:30 11/17/21 (0)
- Same punishment for looters as murderers? Your idea of justice is warped. - Rick W 13:00:55 11/17/21 (1)
- According to the MCCA--Major Cities Chiefs Association... - dark_dave56 03:35:50 11/18/21 (0)
- First of all, I doubt that many if any of those folks would know fascism if it bit them on the ass. - ghost of olddude55 12:25:48 11/17/21 (3)
- RE: The definition of fascism I'm using in this case - tweaker456 13:11:40 11/17/21 (2)
- We incarcerate a larger percentage of our population than any other country ... - ghost of olddude55 13:36:05 11/17/21 (1)
- Wow, I disagree. - Rick W 08:39:28 11/18/21 (0)
- Pretty sure that the "allegedly killed the cop".... - TWB 11:51:24 11/17/21 (1)
- Debunked by who? - ghost of olddude55 12:10:33 11/17/21 (0)
- Regarding Rittenhouse, that's a really tough call - jdaniel@jps.net 09:29:04 11/17/21 (17)
- RE: I actually looked into this - ornery 18:07:38 11/18/21 (0)
- Shouldn't be tough but I think it will be - Goober58 10:21:03 11/17/21 (15)
- "no one went there to kill" - seems hard to believe. - G Squared 11:08:54 11/17/21 (8)
- Someone should have told the kid a long time ago that he's not soldier of fortune material. Nt - jdaniel@jps.net 11:56:13 11/17/21 (0)
- I'm ambivalent. - ghost of olddude55 11:24:01 11/17/21 (6)
- Yes and no..... He had several relatives that lived near Kenosha.... - TWB 11/17/2111:39:37 11/17/21 (5)
- He'd be alive because he wouldn't have been taking on those guys if he didn't have the gun - Dave_K 13:01:06 11/18/21 (1)
- Too true. nt. - MWE 13:20:28 11/18/21 (0)
- Well, maybe. - ghost of olddude55 11:46:55 11/17/21 (2)
- Well I did watch quite a bit of the proceedings on..... - TWB 11:57:51 11/17/21 (1)
- Exactly. - ghost of olddude55 12:11:55 11/17/21 (0)
- RE: Shouldn't be tough but I think it will be - BillH 10:41:43 11/17/21 (4)
- All the talk about crappy parenting - Goober58 10:57:00 11/17/21 (3)
- RE: All the talk about crappy parenting - dark_dave56 04:49:10 11/18/21 (0)
- "We've become a crock of imbeciles"...LOL! so says one of.... - TWB 11:17:41 11/17/21 (0)
- Agreed - G Squared 11:15:16 11/17/21 (0)
- "he was where he wasn't supposed to be"? - Tre' 10:28:48 11/17/21 (0)
Follow Ups
- Yes and no..... He had several relatives that lived near Kenosha.... - TWB 11/17/2111:39:37 11/17/21 (5)
- He'd be alive because he wouldn't have been taking on those guys if he didn't have the gun - Dave_K 13:01:06 11/18/21 (1)
- Too true. nt. - MWE 13:20:28 11/18/21 (0)
- Well, maybe. - ghost of olddude55 11:46:55 11/17/21 (2)
- Well I did watch quite a bit of the proceedings on..... - TWB 11:57:51 11/17/21 (1)
- Exactly. - ghost of olddude55 12:11:55 11/17/21 (0)