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In Reply to: Link found posted by E-Stat on November 8, 2021 at 10:35:37:
huh ... well, that's not what the linked article from 2006 quotes NASA climatologist Hansen saying at all ... in conformity with such articles his comments are in quotes ... so
"I think we have a very brief opportunity to deal with climate change - no longer than a decade, at the most"
then the reporter paraphrases Hansen saying:
"IF [emphasis mine] the world continues with a "business as usual" scenario, temperatures will rise by 2 to 3 degrees Celsius and "we will be producing a different planet"
the reporter then goes on to state, without attribution to Hansen, 'on that warmer planet, ice sheets would melt quickly, causing a rise in sea levels that would put MOST [emphasis mine] of Manhattan under water'
for the sake of argument, let's attribute the comment to him and do a 'light' unpacking of this
the IF in his statement is of course a qualifier saying if nothing was done etc., then the article goes on to describe his praise for something that WAS done in California in the time frame of his comments
in other words, he made no prediction for Manhattan whatsoever, other than to mention it in a 'what if - could be' scenario if temperatures rose 2 > 3 degrees Celsius in what should be properly interpreted as a warning, not a prediction ... but
since other measures WERE instituted in 2006 and on, along with other natural influences that would affect his projected climate change model warning, indeed, Manhattan or even most of it is not under water
one thing of note was his warning of stronger hurricanes, longer droughts, and more frequent and larger wildfires during this temperature run up to the levels he WARNED of, not predicted, which of course has turned out to pretty damn accurate
to characterize NASA's climate scientist [drop the 'expert' that's a loaded word] WARNINGS as predictions that didn't come true as failures of climatology is an exercise in recasting those remarks with substitute terminology in order to refute MMGW which anti-science factions routinely do ... it's a turnkey technique used in debate and propaganda that can be applied to politics, advertising, legal proceedings and other communications seeking to influence
apparently you picked this article up from a web-site versed in those techniques with a climate denial / anti environmentalist bent along with probably other anti liberal memes ... may I ask which one it was?
in any even, a warning is different than a prediction so if you stumble across them maybe now you can tell the difference ... glad to help!
be well,
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