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It seems to me that a tax on all gun owners and requiring liability insurance is somewhat the same as taxing all cars to cover costs drunk driver accidents. Or taxing all banks for the cost of investigating bank robberies.
In a unanimous vote Tuesday night, San Jose's city council approved a national first that will see gun owners being forced to compensate taxpayers for the spiraling costs of gun violence. According to the San Francisco Chronicle, gun owners in California's third-largest city will be required to take out liability insurance for their firearms, and pay an annual tax that will help fund emergency responses to gun-related calls.
All of us already pay for police in property taxes and other taxes. It seems discriminatory to single out gun owners that have nothing to do with the gun violence.
-Rod
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Topic - Is this legal? - Rod M 14:16:31 06/30/21 (100)
- RE: Is this legal? - dark_dave56 03:49:23 07/1/21 (1)
- Yeah, liability insurance makes no sense... - Rod M 09:54:26 07/1/21 (0)
- Driving a car on a public road is not a right. nt - Tre' 18:26:49 06/30/21 (7)
- Since when? nt - Victor Khomenko 19:07:15 06/30/21 (6)
- RE: Since when? nt - pictureguy 23:09:11 06/30/21 (5)
- In Pennsylvania, at least, you do NOT have a right to drive. - ghost of olddude55 03:53:57 07/1/21 (4)
- Oh, I am fully aware of that bullshit, my question was... - Victor Khomenko 04:27:59 07/1/21 (3)
- Pennsylvania started issuing drivers licenses in 1909. - ghost of olddude55 07:15:55 07/1/21 (2)
- The point is, there has been an unchecked power grab - Victor Khomenko 07:43:06 07/1/21 (1)
- The way it is and always has been. - ghost of olddude55 10:57:24 07/1/21 (0)
- RE: Is this legal? - Inmate51 16:31:56 06/30/21 (3)
- Weren't discussing Tejas... N/T - musetap 17:13:10 07/1/21 (0)
- RE: Ya sure about dat 51 - tweaker456 11:19:50 07/1/21 (0)
- Townsfolk elected them. Are you anti-democracy? nt - tinear 07:44:02 07/1/21 (0)
- Laws requiring auto liability insurance are generally accepted as legal. - Sondek 15:43:35 06/30/21 (43)
- Several Founders sold insurance for a living - Jay Buridan 19:13:27 06/30/21 (2)
- Seriously, that's crazy.... - Rod M 20:03:18 06/30/21 (1)
- I think SCOTUS will say it's up to the states - Jay Buridan 21:14:54 06/30/21 (0)
- For latest purchase, I had to provide a pic and serial number to our gun safe, first time this year. Never had - jdaniel@jps.net 18:30:32 06/30/21 (1)
- RE: For latest purchase, I had to provide a pic and serial number to our gun safe, first time this year. Never had - Sondek 18:32:08 06/30/21 (0)
- Apples and oranges.... - Rod M 17:13:59 06/30/21 (9)
- RE: Apples and oranges.... - Inmate51 08:17:57 07/1/21 (0)
- RE: Apples and oranges.... - Sondek 17:22:27 06/30/21 (7)
- This... - E-Stat 10:29:06 07/1/21 (5)
- RE: This... - Sondek 11:50:42 07/1/21 (4)
- Short memory - E-Stat 11:54:20 07/1/21 (3)
- RE: Short memory - Sondek 11:59:46 07/1/21 (2)
- You won't get an answer because he can't make one. You're right. nt - tinear 07:47:03 07/1/21 (0)
- Just askin' - E-Stat 16:13:40 06/30/21 (27)
- RE: Just askin' - Sondek 16:44:19 06/30/21 (4)
- RE: Just askin' - JURB 12:28:39 07/1/21 (0)
- The answer - E-Stat 16:56:21 06/30/21 (2)
- RE: The answer - Sondek 17:10:03 06/30/21 (1)
- Glad you caught up! -nt - E-Stat 17:16:34 06/30/21 (0)
- Laugh! Yea sure everyone with a gun is part of the well regulated militia - Goober58 16:41:38 06/30/21 (21)
- "Well-regulated militia" is the National Guard. nt - tinear 07:57:56 07/1/21 (0)
- Interesting. What defines a well regulated militia and who regulates it? nt - jdaniel@jps.net 17:55:54 06/30/21 (6)
- RE: Interesting. What defines a well regulated militia and who regulates it? nt - Tre' 21:17:09 06/30/21 (0)
- RE: Interesting. What defines a well regulated militia and who regulates it? nt - timeltel 19:46:58 06/30/21 (0)
- The states regulate them - Jay Buridan 19:17:04 06/30/21 (2)
- RE: The states regulate them - rivervalley817 19:27:54 06/30/21 (1)
- RE: The states regulate them - rivervalley817 22:07:25 06/30/21 (0)
- Who knows? - Goober58 18:23:12 06/30/21 (0)
- RE: Laugh! Yea sure everyone with a gun is part of the well regulated militia - Tre' 17:11:17 06/30/21 (12)
- RE: Laugh! Yea sure everyone with a gun is part of the well regulated militia - Goober58 17:42:40 06/30/21 (11)
- RE: Laugh! Yea sure everyone with a gun is part of the well regulated militia - Tre' 21:09:22 06/30/21 (10)
- A preamble taken out of context is... - musetap 17:08:00 07/1/21 (0)
- RE: Laugh! Yea sure everyone with a gun is part of the well regulated militia - jdaniel@jps.net 08:44:01 07/1/21 (0)
- RE: Laugh! Yea sure everyone with a gun is part of the well regulated militia - dee eye why 08:22:14 07/1/21 (1)
- No, I am not joking. Why would you ask that? - Tre' 09:46:05 07/1/21 (0)
- Wow! Were you kidding? That's stunning even for a right winger. nt - Rick W 08:02:08 07/1/21 (5)
- Maybe some day... - E-Stat 08:19:05 07/1/21 (4)
- Maybe some day you won't be an obnoxious twit, but so far no sign of that. - Rick W 10:04:34 07/1/21 (2)
- You know - E-Stat 10:15:20 07/1/21 (1)
- I stand by what I said. Every word of it. nt - Rick W 10:18:47 07/1/21 (0)
- +1 nt - Tre' 09:41:21 07/1/21 (0)
- And more... - Goober58 14:45:12 06/30/21 (0)
- RE: Is this legal? - Ivan303 14:42:51 06/30/21 (1)
- RE: Is this legal? - Rod M 18:20:53 06/30/21 (0)
- You can't have rights without responsibilities. - ghost of olddude55 14:39:26 06/30/21 (16)
- The mantra for decades has been "guns don't kill people, people do." Makes as much - tinear 08:08:44 07/1/21 (0)
- RE: You can't have rights without responsibilities. - neolith 06:50:50 07/1/21 (0)
- Not to force personal liability for strictly criminal activity - E-Stat 15:24:00 06/30/21 (13)
- Target gun companies then. - ghost of olddude55 16:16:32 06/30/21 (12)
- For lawful manufacture? - E-Stat 16:22:01 06/30/21 (11)
- Tobacco companies are a better analogy. - ghost of olddude55 16:38:23 06/30/21 (10)
- RE: Tobacco companies are a better analogy. - Rod M 18:28:06 06/30/21 (3)
- But still, there is no constitutional right to make guns. - ghost of olddude55 03:18:26 07/1/21 (2)
- RE: But still, there is no constitutional right to make guns. - dark_dave56 04:57:12 07/1/21 (1)
- Fortunately - E-Stat 05:51:38 07/1/21 (0)
- RE: Tobacco companies are a better analogy. - Tre' 16:59:27 06/30/21 (3)
- Just because you tax the gun companies... - ghost of olddude55 03:50:57 07/1/21 (2)
- VERY good points! I like your thinking... - musetap 13:18:55 07/1/21 (0)
- Then one should be provided to you at no cost... - dark_dave56 03:57:42 07/1/21 (0)
- Sorry - E-Stat 16:46:24 06/30/21 (1)
- The marketing is irrelevant. - ghost of olddude55 03:31:03 07/1/21 (0)
- We have mandatory auto insurance and mandatory mortgage insurance. - Goober58 14:33:47 06/30/21 (5)
- BzzzT. Wrong ............ - JDK 14:48:25 06/30/21 (4)
- Laugh! - Goober58 15:12:29 06/30/21 (3)
- FWIW - Goober58 15:32:46 06/30/21 (2)
- Story on the news the other night... - ghost of olddude55 16:40:40 06/30/21 (1)
- But wanting to and having to may be 2 different things. - Goober58 01:34:35 07/1/21 (0)
- Not constitutionally - E-Stat 14:27:20 06/30/21 (15)
- RE: Not constitutionally - raingerz 21:45:08 07/1/21 (0)
- Maybe yes, maybe no - Jay Buridan 19:20:27 06/30/21 (0)
- Let me guess...- - Steve O 15:46:47 06/30/21 (12)
- Too funny! - E-Stat 16:01:17 06/30/21 (11)
- If that's too funny...- - Steve O 16:53:35 06/30/21 (10)
- The Fourth Article of the Bill of Rights - E-Stat 17:01:47 06/30/21 (9)
- Nothing there about insurance...- - Steve O 18:15:45 06/30/21 (8)
- Exactly! - E-Stat 18:22:36 06/30/21 (7)
- RE: Exactly? - Steve O 19:41:07 06/30/21 (6)
- What is not found - E-Stat 05:41:51 07/1/21 (5)
- Too funny!!! (nt) - Steve O 06:12:45 07/1/21 (4)
- The entire thing is too funny! - E-Stat 06:19:45 07/1/21 (3)
- Impatient you are... - Steve O 06:52:16 07/1/21 (2)
- Observing fact has nothing to do with impatience - E-Stat 06:53:47 07/1/21 (1)
- Perception is all there is (nt) - Steve O 09:21:51 07/1/21 (0)