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In Reply to: A few good ideas, but some fascist ones, too. The poor have posted by tinear on June 29, 2021 at 14:34:27:
It's an equal opportunity decision to be single and a mother.
I feel sorry for the millions of grandmothers that get stuck with kids that their daughters can't or won't support and nurture properly.
-Rod
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Thoughts on "the land of opportunity" - E-Stat 09:18:05 06/29/21 (120)
- RE: Thoughts on "the land of opportunity" - pictureguy 23:39:41 06/30/21 (4)
- Look at the data in the link - E-Stat 05:38:35 07/1/21 (3)
- RE: Look at the data in the link - pictureguy 11:14:57 07/1/21 (2)
- RE: Look at the data in the link - E-Stat 11:27:53 07/1/21 (1)
- RE: Look at the data in the link - pictureguy 12:05:51 07/1/21 (0)
- RE: Thoughts on "the land of opportunity" - - dean_martin 16:00:13 06/29/21 (1)
- RE: Thoughts on "the land of opportunity" - - pictureguy 12:14:02 07/1/21 (0)
- A few good ideas, but some fascist ones, too. The poor have - tinear 14:34:27 06/29/21 (12)
- RE: A few good ideas, but some fascist ones, too. The poor have - Inmate51 15:29:25 06/29/21 (0)
- Read more closely - E-Stat 14:49:14 06/29/21 (8)
- Understand more closely. Saying "blessed" adds religion to Nazism. nt - tinear 14:51:27 06/29/21 (7)
- Better parents and attitudes have existed - E-Stat 14:58:33 06/29/21 (6)
- This appears to be gibberish, sorry... nt - tinear 15:07:36 06/29/21 (5)
- Introducing Adolf Hitler into the discussion most certainly is - LOL! -nt - E-Stat 15:08:30 06/29/21 (4)
- Racism. There, feel better? I didn't introduce it, your author did. And are you denying that - tinear 15:17:03 06/29/21 (3)
- Not at all - E-Stat 15:22:22 06/29/21 (2)
- Oh yes! Telling people to be "responsible" and "better parents" will do it! - tinear 15:27:22 06/29/21 (1)
- I knew this would have to be the answer! - E-Stat 15:31:15 06/29/21 (0)
- Look at the data...it's not racial or just urban at all - Rod M 06/29/2114:47:06 06/29/21 (1)
- Rod, you do realize that in all white 19th century London the very same crap - tinear 14:52:44 06/29/21 (0)
- Sex out of Wedlock! ...... The Shame!! ............nt - Cut-Throat 13:45:02 06/29/21 (13)
- The resulting poverty is far worse -nt - E-Stat 13:49:42 06/29/21 (12)
- "Resulting." No. They were poor when single, too. nt - tinear 14:36:59 06/29/21 (0)
- Only if you are anti Birth Control and Anti Choice ..........nt - Cut-Throat 14:10:57 06/29/21 (10)
- I'm against easily preventable poverty - E-Stat 14:29:03 06/29/21 (5)
- RE: I'm against easily preventable poverty - dee eye why 16:12:41 06/29/21 (4)
- RE: I'm against easily preventable poverty - Inmate51 19:55:29 06/29/21 (0)
- Chains can be broken - E-Stat 16:14:52 06/29/21 (2)
- RE: Chains can be broken - dee eye why 04:03:54 06/30/21 (1)
- Tinny must have been thinking about you - E-Stat 05:25:54 06/30/21 (0)
- Racial disparities and contraception use - jdaniel@jps.net 14:15:12 06/29/21 (3)
- Interesting results - E-Stat 16:19:37 06/29/21 (0)
- JD: can we agree that there are vast differences in average income and education between - tinear 14:54:48 06/29/21 (1)
- Those issues are covered in article, just a few paragraphs down. - jdaniel@jps.net 16:47:39 06/29/21 (0)
- The wisest philosopher king would be unable to solve our problems but...- - Jay Buridan 12:27:55 06/29/21 (3)
- RE: The wisest philosopher king would be unable to solve our problems but...- - tweaker456 20:01:24 06/29/21 (1)
- LOL! - Jay Buridan 20:28:52 06/29/21 (0)
- 1+. nt - tinear 14:40:57 06/29/21 (0)
- It says families and education are the key - Goober58 12:26:01 06/29/21 (5)
- Agree - E-Stat 12:34:15 06/29/21 (4)
- Out-of-wedlock births are rising among all classes. Are white - tinear 15:09:17 06/29/21 (3)
- Such varies across the human experience - E-Stat 15:16:49 06/29/21 (2)
- "Particular"? Why do you think that is so? And how do you - tinear 15:22:45 06/29/21 (1)
- Good question - E-Stat 15:39:48 06/29/21 (0)
- Blame feminism... - Rod M 11:30:11 06/29/21 (20)
- Blame conservatives who block family support mechanisms like child care. Also, blocking - tinear 14:42:39 06/29/21 (0)
- Sadly, some don't understand this equation... - E-Stat 11:42:53 06/29/21 (18)
- The equation is perfectly clear. Some don't understand how their attitudes indirectly exacerbate the problem. - jdaniel@jps.net 11:56:27 06/29/21 (0)
- On the other hand... - ghost of olddude55 11:49:51 06/29/21 (16)
- RE: On the other hand... - E-Stat 11:54:56 06/29/21 (15)
- Not in my experience. - ghost of olddude55 12:16:49 06/29/21 (14)
- RE: Not in my experience. - E-Stat 12:28:34 06/29/21 (11)
- Any stats comparing whites to blacks are worthless UNLESS - tinear 14:49:51 06/29/21 (3)
- The underlying challenge - E-Stat 14:53:54 06/29/21 (2)
- Have you studied urban decline? Suburban flight? Redline districting? - tinear 15:31:57 06/29/21 (1)
- Yours is the last word - E-Stat 15:33:28 06/29/21 (0)
- Live births to unmarried mothers doesn't automatically correlate to generational poverty. - ghost of olddude55 12:35:28 06/29/21 (6)
- Return to the link I provided initially - E-Stat 12:40:03 06/29/21 (5)
- It's an opinion piece. - ghost of olddude55 12:53:38 06/29/21 (4)
- Backed by Census Bureau data - E-Stat 12:59:31 06/29/21 (3)
- Still an opinion... - ghost of olddude55 13:15:34 06/29/21 (2)
- IMHO her conclusion is correct, to wit: - Jay Buridan 14:04:35 06/29/21 (1)
- Exactly what I've been sayin'! - E-Stat 14:44:15 06/29/21 (0)
- Rise of Single Fathers: 9 fold increase since (fill in year when America was great here). - jdaniel@jps.net 12:22:09 06/29/21 (1)
- Some of it has to do with employability. - ghost of olddude55 12:32:40 06/29/21 (0)
- More thoughts on "the land of opportunity"! - vacuous 10:12:25 06/29/21 (4)
- If that's what you want - E-Stat 10:14:47 06/29/21 (3)
- Not me. I'm no nationalist cheerleader like you. (nt) - vacuous 10:15:51 06/29/21 (2)
- I'll repeat what obviously you don't understand - E-Stat 10:17:27 06/29/21 (1)
- Devastating point you have made! I'm crushed! You win! I'm outta this subthread. - vacuous 10:25:24 06/29/21 (0)
- Birthrate down since 2007, sharpest drop among teenagers - jdaniel@jps.net 10:06:05 06/29/21 (34)
- The challenge is qualitative not quantitative - E-Stat 10:10:09 06/29/21 (33)
- RE: The challenge is qualitative not quantitative - jdaniel@jps.net 10:29:49 06/29/21 (32)
- I see - E-Stat 10:47:49 06/29/21 (31)
- RE: I see - jdaniel@jps.net 11:08:49 06/29/21 (19)
- That's in part how - E-Stat 11:12:54 06/29/21 (18)
- RE: That's in part how - jdaniel@jps.net 11:31:44 06/29/21 (17)
- "The sharp drop since 2007" - E-Stat 11:40:24 06/29/21 (16)
- White men and women are the problem, it seems... - tinear 15:05:45 06/29/21 (1)
- That depends upon whether or not - E-Stat 15:12:20 06/29/21 (0)
- "Teenagers have had the sharpest decline, down by 63%" - jdaniel@jps.net 11:59:57 06/29/21 (13)
- Dammit, fixed. - jdaniel@jps.net 12:41:38 06/29/21 (1)
- That is exactly what I found - E-Stat 12:54:42 06/29/21 (0)
- You really need to work on your links - E-Stat 12:22:35 06/29/21 (10)
- So in the past, 1000 burgers came off the grill and only, say, 20% were missing a bun, and today..... - jdaniel@jps.net 13:00:42 06/29/21 (9)
- RE: So in the past, 1000 burgers came off the grill and only, say, 20% were missing a bun, and today..... - E-Stat 13:32:30 06/29/21 (4)
- RE: So in the past, 1000 burgers came off the grill and only, say, 20% were missing a bun, and today..... - jdaniel@jps.net 14:08:10 06/29/21 (3)
- Return - E-Stat 14:27:57 06/29/21 (2)
- RE: Return - jdaniel@jps.net 14:40:15 06/29/21 (1)
- RE: Return - E-Stat 14:52:32 06/29/21 (0)
- RE: So in the past, 1000 burgers came off the grill and only, say, 20% were missing a bun, and today..... - Inmate51 13:20:38 06/29/21 (3)
- I thought you were practical? It's quite simple: pay for birth control - tinear 15:13:24 06/29/21 (1)
- Birth control is premeditated sin. nt - jdaniel@jps.net 23:34:59 06/29/21 (0)
- You know.... - jdaniel@jps.net 13:30:56 06/29/21 (0)
- "they just always spread their legs and say yes?" - vacuous 10:54:12 06/29/21 (10)
- Observing exceptionally poor choices is... - E-Stat 10:58:03 06/29/21 (9)
- Oh, I see... Men have absolutely no responsibility for the plight of unwed mothers? - vacuous 11:02:47 06/29/21 (8)
- Perhaps someone needs to explain the birds and bees to you :) - E-Stat 11:04:50 06/29/21 (7)
- RE: Perhaps someone needs to explain the birds and bees to you :) - kyle 11:56:19 06/29/21 (1)
- Yes - E-Stat 12:14:39 06/29/21 (0)
- I get it! Men can screw around all they want. Women have all the responsibility of unwanted pregnancies. -nt - vacuous 11:06:54 06/29/21 (4)
- You really don't understand that? - E-Stat 11:08:19 06/29/21 (3)
- Your point of view on unwanted pregnancy is extraordinarily sexist. I'm outta this subthread... - vacuous 11:10:13 06/29/21 (2)
- In the immortal words of Monty Python - Jay Buridan 14:13:18 06/29/21 (1)
- "He's no philosopher king. " - E-Stat 15:46:50 06/29/21 (0)
- Two keys to having a decent life... - ghost of olddude55 09:29:21 06/29/21 (14)
- It's a vicious cycle - E-Stat 09:53:31 06/29/21 (11)
- Sometimes... - ghost of olddude55 10:23:20 06/29/21 (10)
- RE: Sometimes... - Tre' 10:58:29 06/29/21 (3)
- Our tap water is just as clean as bottled water. - ghost of olddude55 11:06:03 06/29/21 (2)
- RE: Our tap water is just as clean as bottled water. - Tre' 11:09:07 06/29/21 (1)
- Sounds like you're one of the 2 million. nt - ghost of olddude55 11:13:37 06/29/21 (0)
- But - E-Stat 10:45:56 06/29/21 (5)
- They can... - ghost of olddude55 11:00:20 06/29/21 (4)
- Water is a local problem - E-Stat 11:01:58 06/29/21 (3)
- Then let the Federal government give the locals the money. - ghost of olddude55 11:10:05 06/29/21 (2)
- Are you aware this question - E-Stat 13:48:51 06/29/21 (0)
- +1... The American Flag flies in all those local(es) too... N/T - musetap 12:32:05 06/29/21 (0)
- RE: You forgot one other thing ghost... - tweaker456 09:49:01 06/29/21 (1)
- Dude, I'm already verging on the brink of a Monty Python routine... - ghost of olddude55 09:59:52 06/29/21 (0)
Follow Ups
- Look at the data...it's not racial or just urban at all - Rod M 06/29/2114:47:06 06/29/21 (1)
- Rod, you do realize that in all white 19th century London the very same crap - tinear 14:52:44 06/29/21 (0)