+1 NO ONE is opposed to alternative energy resources....

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Topic - Manhattan Project, Moon landing: alternative energy is doable. - tinear 07:33:17 06/27/21 (95)

No, its not. Too many developing countries where climate concerns are last on the list - Wojciech 16:19:36 06/28/21 (0)

Saturn V first stage used that 'green' mixture of kerosene and liquid oxygen - mhardy6647 10:58:44 06/27/21 (5)

Herr Van Braun's statement design - E-Stat 18:53:12 06/27/21 (0)

Yeah, mass transit to death camps - Jay Buridan 12:42:54 06/27/21 (3)

RE: Yeah, mass transit to death camps - rivervalley817 13:19:11 06/27/21 (2)

RE: Yeah, mass transit to death camps - b.l.zeebub 08:28:40 06/28/21 (1)

RE: Yeah, mass transit to death camps - rivervalley817 17:18:36 06/28/21 (0)

And either we abandon the southwest or solve its water issues - Jay Buridan 09:40:00 06/27/21 (16)

"ranch and farmlands that are becoming dustbowls ought to be salvaged" - vacuous 10:35:03 06/27/21 (11)

RE: "ranch and farmlands that are becoming dustbowls ought to be salvaged" - dark_dave56 09:50:37 06/28/21 (0)

Las Vegas: extreme climate makes intense demands on energy. Far away - tinear 11:54:39 06/27/21 (6)

"Phoenix, Reno [...] they're all going to get worse with consecutive days above 115F" - vacuous 13:22:52 06/27/21 (5)

Fastest warming city in the US? Reno, NV. nt - tinear 13:56:13 06/27/21 (2)

All the hookers in Vegas and Reno should move to my town - Jay Buridan 12:37:30 06/29/21 (0)

Better check your sources! - vacuous 14:23:43 06/27/21 (0)

RE: "Phoenix, Reno [...] they're all going to get worse with consecutive days above 115F" - rivervalley817 13:31:35 06/27/21 (1)

115 degrees is FORECAST for Portland. Hasn't happened yet. - vacuous 13:38:32 06/27/21 (0)

Just saying it's Babylonian contributions would not be greatly missed - Jay Buridan 11:02:25 06/27/21 (1)

I like Las Vegas! - vacuous 11:30:45 06/27/21 (0)

RE: "ranch and farmlands that are becoming dustbowls ought to be salvaged" - rivervalley817 10:50:24 06/27/21 (0)

RE: And either we abandon the southwest or solve its water issues - rivervalley817 10:33:56 06/27/21 (1)

Sadly true - Jay Buridan 12:32:52 06/27/21 (0)

I remember in the 1960's, when Pierre Salinger ran for CA Senate. . . - Chris from Lafayette 10:15:53 06/27/21 (1)

Got off the horns of that dilemma by doing nothing... - Jay Buridan 11:06:03 06/27/21 (0)

All true IMO, but transition like this takes time, probably more than we will see. - free.ranger 08:50:35 06/27/21 (1)

A few nations are preparing for change - Jay Buridan 12:46:29 06/27/21 (0)

ROTFLOL! The AA resident Henny-Penny has spoken! (nt) - TWB 08:24:48 06/27/21 (0)

Get real! Death-spiral politics gonna continue to crush enlightened science. - vacuous 08:24:35 06/27/21 (2)

Not to mention all those spies that look like birds - Jay Buridan 09:30:34 06/27/21 (1)

Ain't no bird spies. Only us geezers brainstorming crackpot solutions to the world's problems. (nt) - vacuous 09:50:28 06/27/21 (0)

I'm down with moving toward greener energy. - srdavis2000 08:05:02 06/27/21 (64)

"A bit of time." That sounds practical, of course, - tinear 08:34:55 06/27/21 (6)

Okay - srdavis2000 08:48:50 06/27/21 (5)

I guess you don't get it. Systemic change isn't buying an EV, - tinear 09:15:18 06/27/21 (4)

I get it. - srdavis2000 09:35:00 06/27/21 (3)

The "it" means a fix, right? That's what my comment is talking about: - tinear 11:46:52 06/27/21 (1)

RE: The "it" means a fix, right? That's what my comment is talking about: - rivervalley817 12:01:11 06/27/21 (0)

RE: I get it. - rivervalley817 10:24:46 06/27/21 (0)

+1 NO ONE is opposed to alternative energy resources.... - TWB 06/27/2108:14:39 06/27/21 (56)

RE: +1 NO ONE is opposed to alternative energy resources.... - zacster 10:35:20 06/27/21 (0)

Got a smart phone? Computer? - ghost of olddude55 08:31:38 06/27/21 (54)

If you want to be Chinese, have at it! - TWB 08:43:12 06/27/21 (9)

I'm just tire of all the whinging about the Chinese. - ghost of olddude55 08:52:35 06/27/21 (8)

It's his right to do so dammit... - musetap 16:23:07 06/27/21 (0)

Actually, it's more complex: we're victims of our own success: strong dollar. - tinear 09:16:44 06/27/21 (1)

And I'm just as bad as anybody else. - ghost of olddude55 09:19:12 06/27/21 (0)

People equate China goods with "toys". Much deeper than that. - free.ranger 08:59:36 06/27/21 (4)

They built parts for much of the New Bay Bridge and the ships to get the parts here... - musetap 16:16:03 06/27/21 (0)

And does anyone really want a country w/5 times our population to - tinear 09:20:01 06/27/21 (0)

Indeed. - ghost of olddude55 09:16:13 06/27/21 (1)

RE: Indeed. - rivervalley817 10:14:38 06/27/21 (0)

Well said. China is an American life partner, for better or worse. - free.ranger 08:42:41 06/27/21 (2)

Our farmers depend on the Chinese market. - ghost of olddude55 08:53:45 06/27/21 (0)

+1. nt - tinear 08:43:27 06/27/21 (0)

Globalism is here to stay: it's the bedrock of consumerism. - tinear 08:42:34 06/27/21 (40)

Not only that but the 1950s were a one-time deal. - ghost of olddude55 08:57:14 06/27/21 (39)

And the rise of Unions: poverty jobs of the 20s became the middle class jobs of the 50s - jdaniel@jps.net 09:27:54 06/28/21 (0)

+1 ...the 1950s were a one-time deal - Jay Buridan 09:28:03 06/27/21 (23)

Botched opportunities... - dark_dave56 13:42:38 06/28/21 (0)

And it wasn't as great as pop culture makes people think. - ghost of olddude55 09:38:12 06/27/21 (21)

"There never was a Leave to Beaver America?... Oh yes there was!... - TWB 10:38:22 06/27/21 (15)

You think you did, but you probably didn't. - ghost of olddude55 11:30:33 06/27/21 (5)

LOL! My parents WERE Ward and June!..... - TWB 11:47:49 06/27/21 (4)

Ahhh... so the "W" is for Wally!... - musetap 14:27:09 06/28/21 (1)

If anything in life were to make sense to YOU, it would be a miracle.... - TWB 14:37:00 06/28/21 (0)

Then you were the exception, rather than the rule. - ghost of olddude55 12:34:21 06/27/21 (1)

Yes it's true that all of those things happened around us..... - TWB 12:59:48 06/27/21 (0)

Wonderbread and mayonnaise. nt - Rick W 10:58:33 06/27/21 (7)

RE: Wonderbread and mayonnaise. nt - rivervalley817 11:21:58 06/27/21 (6)

RE: Wonderbread and mayonnaise. nt - kyle 10:32:20 06/28/21 (0)

You think your field trip was bad? - ghost of olddude55 11:31:35 06/27/21 (4)

RE: You think your field trip was bad? - rivervalley817 11:50:29 06/27/21 (3)

One of the other kids sat on my little loaf of "bread." - ghost of olddude55 12:35:14 06/27/21 (2)

No big loss... Wonder bread is nasty stuff! - TWB 13:06:28 06/27/21 (0)

RE: One of the other kids sat on my little loaf of "bread." - rivervalley817 13:02:26 06/27/21 (0)

RE: "There never was a Leave to Beaver America?... Oh yes there was!... - rivervalley817 10:58:14 06/27/21 (0)

True, and pop culture glamourized gambling and drinking addictions - Jay Buridan 10:08:36 06/27/21 (2)

I've never smoked cigarettes in my life... - ghost of olddude55 10:28:07 06/27/21 (1)

Oh. I forgot about smoking - Jay Buridan 11:10:48 06/27/21 (0)

There never was a "Leave It To Beaver" America - Chris from Lafayette 09:55:51 06/27/21 (1)

I'd have been OK with "Make Room for Daddy." - ghost of olddude55 09:57:28 06/27/21 (0)

Back to cars. I was thinking ... - free.ranger 09:08:57 06/27/21 (12)

"Americans won't give up their cars!" If that's true, - tinear 09:23:19 06/27/21 (0)

Time and a half for dealing with the plutonium pellets. nt - ghost of olddude55 09:16:51 06/27/21 (10)

My brilliant idea thudded when I thought of interstate pile-ups. nt - free.ranger 09:28:00 06/27/21 (0)

The kahunas in Solidarity House prefer to handle golf balls - Jay Buridan 09:23:42 06/27/21 (8)

As long as they're not handling my balls, it's all good. - ghost of olddude55 09:30:24 06/27/21 (7)

First time I've ever heard anything good about Teamsters - Jay Buridan 09:41:38 06/27/21 (6)

And CEOs are all righteous, God-fearin' folks, right Jay? nt - tinear 11:49:14 06/27/21 (3)

That's a non sequitur - Jay Buridan 12:49:03 06/27/21 (2)

No huge org is squeaky clean. Anti-labor propaganda has been a - tinear 13:55:19 06/27/21 (1)

Agreed, and there's also critique from the left - Jay Buridan 18:37:37 06/27/21 (0)

Neither a goon nor a thug am I. - ghost of olddude55 09:56:05 06/27/21 (1)

My friends were TDU - Jay Buridan 10:15:08 06/27/21 (0)

+1 (nt) - TWB 09:04:31 06/27/21 (0)

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+1 NO ONE is opposed to alternative energy resources.... - TWB 06/27/2108:14:39 06/27/21 (56)

RE: +1 NO ONE is opposed to alternative energy resources.... - zacster 10:35:20 06/27/21 (0)

Got a smart phone? Computer? - ghost of olddude55 08:31:38 06/27/21 (54)

If you want to be Chinese, have at it! - TWB 08:43:12 06/27/21 (9)

I'm just tire of all the whinging about the Chinese. - ghost of olddude55 08:52:35 06/27/21 (8)

It's his right to do so dammit... - musetap 16:23:07 06/27/21 (0)

Actually, it's more complex: we're victims of our own success: strong dollar. - tinear 09:16:44 06/27/21 (1)

And I'm just as bad as anybody else. - ghost of olddude55 09:19:12 06/27/21 (0)

People equate China goods with "toys". Much deeper than that. - free.ranger 08:59:36 06/27/21 (4)

They built parts for much of the New Bay Bridge and the ships to get the parts here... - musetap 16:16:03 06/27/21 (0)

And does anyone really want a country w/5 times our population to - tinear 09:20:01 06/27/21 (0)

Indeed. - ghost of olddude55 09:16:13 06/27/21 (1)

RE: Indeed. - rivervalley817 10:14:38 06/27/21 (0)

Well said. China is an American life partner, for better or worse. - free.ranger 08:42:41 06/27/21 (2)

Our farmers depend on the Chinese market. - ghost of olddude55 08:53:45 06/27/21 (0)

+1. nt - tinear 08:43:27 06/27/21 (0)

Globalism is here to stay: it's the bedrock of consumerism. - tinear 08:42:34 06/27/21 (40)

Not only that but the 1950s were a one-time deal. - ghost of olddude55 08:57:14 06/27/21 (39)

And the rise of Unions: poverty jobs of the 20s became the middle class jobs of the 50s - jdaniel@jps.net 09:27:54 06/28/21 (0)

+1 ...the 1950s were a one-time deal - Jay Buridan 09:28:03 06/27/21 (23)

Botched opportunities... - dark_dave56 13:42:38 06/28/21 (0)

And it wasn't as great as pop culture makes people think. - ghost of olddude55 09:38:12 06/27/21 (21)

"There never was a Leave to Beaver America?... Oh yes there was!... - TWB 10:38:22 06/27/21 (15)

You think you did, but you probably didn't. - ghost of olddude55 11:30:33 06/27/21 (5)

LOL! My parents WERE Ward and June!..... - TWB 11:47:49 06/27/21 (4)

Ahhh... so the "W" is for Wally!... - musetap 14:27:09 06/28/21 (1)

If anything in life were to make sense to YOU, it would be a miracle.... - TWB 14:37:00 06/28/21 (0)

Then you were the exception, rather than the rule. - ghost of olddude55 12:34:21 06/27/21 (1)

Yes it's true that all of those things happened around us..... - TWB 12:59:48 06/27/21 (0)

Wonderbread and mayonnaise. nt - Rick W 10:58:33 06/27/21 (7)

RE: Wonderbread and mayonnaise. nt - rivervalley817 11:21:58 06/27/21 (6)

RE: Wonderbread and mayonnaise. nt - kyle 10:32:20 06/28/21 (0)

You think your field trip was bad? - ghost of olddude55 11:31:35 06/27/21 (4)

RE: You think your field trip was bad? - rivervalley817 11:50:29 06/27/21 (3)

One of the other kids sat on my little loaf of "bread." - ghost of olddude55 12:35:14 06/27/21 (2)

No big loss... Wonder bread is nasty stuff! - TWB 13:06:28 06/27/21 (0)

RE: One of the other kids sat on my little loaf of "bread." - rivervalley817 13:02:26 06/27/21 (0)

RE: "There never was a Leave to Beaver America?... Oh yes there was!... - rivervalley817 10:58:14 06/27/21 (0)

True, and pop culture glamourized gambling and drinking addictions - Jay Buridan 10:08:36 06/27/21 (2)

I've never smoked cigarettes in my life... - ghost of olddude55 10:28:07 06/27/21 (1)

Oh. I forgot about smoking - Jay Buridan 11:10:48 06/27/21 (0)

There never was a "Leave It To Beaver" America - Chris from Lafayette 09:55:51 06/27/21 (1)

I'd have been OK with "Make Room for Daddy." - ghost of olddude55 09:57:28 06/27/21 (0)

Back to cars. I was thinking ... - free.ranger 09:08:57 06/27/21 (12)

"Americans won't give up their cars!" If that's true, - tinear 09:23:19 06/27/21 (0)

Time and a half for dealing with the plutonium pellets. nt - ghost of olddude55 09:16:51 06/27/21 (10)

My brilliant idea thudded when I thought of interstate pile-ups. nt - free.ranger 09:28:00 06/27/21 (0)

The kahunas in Solidarity House prefer to handle golf balls - Jay Buridan 09:23:42 06/27/21 (8)

As long as they're not handling my balls, it's all good. - ghost of olddude55 09:30:24 06/27/21 (7)

First time I've ever heard anything good about Teamsters - Jay Buridan 09:41:38 06/27/21 (6)

And CEOs are all righteous, God-fearin' folks, right Jay? nt - tinear 11:49:14 06/27/21 (3)

That's a non sequitur - Jay Buridan 12:49:03 06/27/21 (2)

No huge org is squeaky clean. Anti-labor propaganda has been a - tinear 13:55:19 06/27/21 (1)

Agreed, and there's also critique from the left - Jay Buridan 18:37:37 06/27/21 (0)

Neither a goon nor a thug am I. - ghost of olddude55 09:56:05 06/27/21 (1)

My friends were TDU - Jay Buridan 10:15:08 06/27/21 (0)

+1 (nt) - TWB 09:04:31 06/27/21 (0)

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