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In Reply to: RE: Is that a CA thing? posted by rivervalley817 on June 6, 2020 at 09:53:09:
At 50 yards I could keep a 6" group without a rest, or a 4" group with a rest. I couldn't do that much better with my shotgun, a Remington 870 pump with slug barrel. I was a practiced shot, but no marksman. The appeal of a pistol was that it was easier to carry around while hunting on foot and you don't have to worry about snow, rain or whatever else falling off the tree branches and into the open end of the barrel while it's slung over your shoulder.
There wasn't a lot of open spaces where I used to hunt, so the longest shot I ever took was 60-70 yards. I got it, but hit it high and broke the spine, so it was still alive but with hind quarters immobilized. I had to put it down at point blank range, with the poor deer staring at me scared shitless. That was hard and it took me a while to get that image out of my head.
The last one I ever shot was 30-40 yards away from a tree stand. It was an old buck and I put the bullet straight through the heart. Two leaps and it fell flat.
That was many years ago and I don't have much desire to hunt anymore. I miss the butchering and eating venison, but I've got plenty of other things I prefer to cook now. I rarely shoot anymore, just occasional target practice with friends, and never carried a loaded gun.
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- RE: not yet! What is the bag limit on Antifa members? nt - rivervalley817 15:01:44 06/5/20 (1)
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- RE: What got me, and I'm 91 so I can REALLY relate... - rivervalley817 10:07:14 06/6/20 (1)
- RE: What got me, and I'm 91 so I can REALLY relate... - rivervalley817 10:42:33 06/6/20 (0)
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- RE: The Old ones are! Is that how Cops protect us? Who will - rivervalley817 10:51:35 06/6/20 (4)
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- RE: do you just want to play word games or debate the issue? - rivervalley817 14:20:01 06/7/20 (2)
- "Good German"..................................................... - Dave B 16:25:31 06/7/20 (1)
- RE: "Good German"..................................................... - rivervalley817 09:15:09 06/8/20 (0)
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- that was my exact thought!.......................................nt - Dave B 05:35:33 06/6/20 (0)
- Wrong source..... - musetap 20:56:21 06/5/20 (0)
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- RE: And it's all the fault of the 79-year-old - BillH 16:37:05 06/5/20 (0)
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- RE: Maybe they'll do a better job of training the next batch - rivervalley817 15:50:06 06/5/20 (2)
- joincampaignzero - Inmate51 06:37:48 06/6/20 (1)
- RE: joincampaignzero - rivervalley817 09:22:09 06/8/20 (0)
- RE: Yeah, that poor geezer in Buffalo should have been armed. - BillH 14:56:39 06/5/20 (17)
- See! I had the same thought, except.... - Dave B 14:59:30 06/5/20 (16)
- RE: See! I had the same thought, except.... - BillH 14:52:57 06/6/20 (14)
- RE: See! I had the same thought, except.... - Dave B 07:14:18 06/7/20 (13)
- RE: See! I had the same thought, except.... - BillH 10:28:43 06/7/20 (12)
- Your Outrage Is Mis-directed - Inmate51 17:07:59 06/7/20 (6)
- RE: Your Outrage Is Mis-directed - BillH 11:17:45 06/8/20 (2)
- RE: Your Outrage Is Mis-directed - Inmate51 14:18:53 06/8/20 (1)
- RE: Your Outrage Is Mis-directed - rivervalley817 14:33:36 06/8/20 (0)
- RE: Your Outrage Is Mis-directed - rivervalley817 18:02:10 06/7/20 (2)
- RE: Thank you for continuing to point out the difference. Many don't get it. nt. - MWE 18:34:01 06/7/20 (1)
- RE: Thank you for continuing to point out the difference. Many don't get it. nt. - rivervalley817 19:04:38 06/7/20 (0)
- RE: See! I had the same thought, except.... - Dave B 11:00:27 06/7/20 (4)
- RE: See! I had the same thought, except.... - rivervalley817 12:14:34 06/7/20 (3)
- RE: See! I had the same thought, except.... - Dave B 14:56:29 06/7/20 (2)
- RE: See! I had the same thought, except.... - rivervalley817 15:06:06 06/7/20 (1)
- RE: See! I had the same thought, except.... - Dave B 16:05:08 06/7/20 (0)
- RE: See! I had the same thought, except.... - rivervalley817 15:10:11 06/5/20 (0)
- RE: What I learned at the Pentagon in '67 - B. Scarpia 11:29:54 06/5/20 (1)
- RE: What I learned at the Pentagon in '67 - BillH 14:55:02 06/5/20 (0)
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- agreed... - Dave B 12:01:01 06/5/20 (0)
- RE: Here's the impact... - srdavis2000 08:42:21 06/5/20 (0)
- RE: Here's the impact... - rivervalley817 08:30:30 06/5/20 (6)
- RE: Here's the impact... - Dave B 08:39:47 06/5/20 (5)
- RE: Here's the impact... - rivervalley817 08:48:11 06/5/20 (4)
- so, this is where it gets weird... - Dave B 11:47:31 06/5/20 (3)
- RE: so, this is where it gets weird... - rivervalley817 15:34:05 06/5/20 (2)
- well, that is disappointing.....................................nt - Dave B 16:06:27 06/5/20 (1)
- RE: well, that is disappointing.....................................nt - rivervalley817 16:08:41 06/5/20 (0)
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- RE: Is that a CA thing? - Dave_K 06/6/2010:36:34 06/6/20 (1)
- RE: Is that a CA thing? - rivervalley817 23:42:29 06/6/20 (0)