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In Reply to: The difference between Lady Gaga and Madonna... posted by ghost of olddude55 on May 28, 2020 at 07:24:27:
I don't think you can compare these three artists. Different generations and "tolerance" levels to what is acceptable. When I was a kid if you said the F bomb in class - man you were in serious trouble. Today - kids are throwing out F-bombs like paper towels to hurricane survivors.
Julie Andrews is from a different generation possibly one where studios were still trying to create a narrative for their stars like knowing Rock Hudson was gay but creating a kind of shield to the world and a fake narrative that he was a ladies man. Anything anyone does today is "seen" by the world.
Madonna was considered shocking in the 1980s but those "shocking" music videos today are laughably "quaint" to any modern viewer. And hardly anything she did was shocking to a European - in the States Janet Jackson showed a nipple and the entire country has a meltdown - SERIOUS - how childish - it's a boob - who cares? Why are people so repressed?
To be fair to Madonna - she was around a long time before autotune was invented and she can sing - she can't Julie Andrews or Lady Gaga sing but she can sing.
Madonna made up for her average voice by putting on a great show (or so I am told as I have never seen her live). She, like most pop singers, cover for being "average vocalists" with spectacle and sex appeal. Madonna was and still is toned - she has a killer fit body - she was pretty in a Marilyn Monroe kind of pretty and she made a lot of catchy pop songs - I prefer listening to Madonna over a lot of better singers who sing boring songs. I defend Madonna in the sense that I think she is better than she is given credit for and I actually like her ballad album (Something to Remember) more than most of her other albums - but she doesn't have that Andrews power house classically trained hold a note for 30 seconds kind of voice.
I'm a bit surprised that an Andrews Streisand fan would like Madonna and not Gaga. Gaga has a vastly better singing voice that Madonna and while Gaga did some attention getting things - so did Madonna in the 1980s. Madonna put out a porn book for heaven sake.
I like consistency. If you like an artist because of their voice then you should like Gaga. If you don't like Gaga because of her "antics" then you should not like Madonna because she has been far worse.
And generations - to get attention today you have to go further - society is desensitized.
Take the meat dress - she claims "the meat dress was tied to her protest against the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy and was a statement against the governmental restrictions placed on the rights of gay soldiers."
So I don't really get the symbolism of her message there but that's ok - it wasn't really egregious to me - people suck down tons of meat at buffets every year so slapping some of it on your back didn't even make me lift an eyebrow.
Her whole Identity basically changed when she met Tony Bennett and, as a father figure, put her head on straight.
Gaga won a Golden Globe for best actress in American Horror Story her first time out and was nominated for best actress in A Star is Born and she was chosen AND approved of by Julie Andrews to sing Julie Andrews at the Academy awards.
First time TV actress wins golden globe - first time movie actress gets nominated for best actress - and chosen by Julie "freaking" Andrews to cover her work! Oh and she's always been great to her fans and as a philanthropist - Sorry but Lady Gaga is very tough not to like - just ignore the first 3-4 years as being an early 20s kid trying to figure things out.
In the end - everything is argumentative and everyone dumps on everything - the ARTS is the area I really wish this wouldn't happen. Singers have different vocal ranges and different abilities.
Julie Andrews talking about Gaga and their preparation for the Oscars https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7uj8flByqs
Gaga covering Julie Andrews
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