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In Reply to: RE: At least that's halfway funny! posted by BillH on May 14, 2020 at 14:55:09:
"What has Trump done that actually favors Putin?"1. Gave him a pass on 2016 campaign interference
Often asserted, never proven. Yeah right, the Russians had more influence on the election, with $150,000 of mostly non-political FaceBook ads (most of which ran AFTER the election - LOL!), than the Hillary campaign, which had close to a billion dollars at its disposal, did!2. Gave him a pass on Ukraine
What pass on Ukraine? We're the ones who worked behind the scenes to topple a UN-certified democratically elected government there. If the Ukrainians didn't want Yanukovitch to remain in power, there was another election coming up, and they could have voted him our of office. But we couldn't wait for an actual election - we were too eager to go ahead with our coup and install "our guy" in power. Check out the damning YouTube recording (below) between Asst Sec of State (under Hillary), Victoria "Cookies" Nuland (a truly evil creature), and US ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt (below). I also think it's interesting that Putin was able to "take over" Crimea without firing a shot. Our violence in Kiev didn't go quite so well.3. Gave him a pass on murders of former Soviet citizens
Check the stats: the murders of former Soviet citizens and journalists have actually GONE DOWN under Putin, compared to what they were under "our guy" Yeltsin.4. Tried to give him a pass on sanctions until Michael Flynn got caught
And yet, we're beginning to see now that Michael Flynn was the victim of an out-of-control security state, which was being used by one political party in this country to illegally spy on another. To me, this is MUCH worse than Watergate, where it was only "the plumbers" who were trying to spy on the other party's campaign. In Flynn's case, it's an actual apparatus of the government which was used for this purpose. This should send chills up your spine.5. Looked and sounded as deferential as hell to a scheming murderous dictator who is no friend of the U.S. or the West in general.
I think you've really drunk the deep-state MSNBC/CNN Kool Aide on this one: I'll leave it to your own expertise to determine how deferential somebody looks and sounds, but the "scheming murderous dictator" has far less blood on his hands, and is doing far less damage and murder throughout the world than we indispensable and exceptional Americans are - such damage and murder are made possible only by the looting of our national treasury for this purpose!
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Follow Ups
- RE: At least that's halfway funny! - Chris from Lafayette 05/14/2017:19:03 05/14/20 (2)
- RE: At least that's halfway funny! - BillH 17:49:57 05/14/20 (1)
- That's a attempt at ridicule - not an argument [nt] - Chris from Lafayette 17:55:16 05/14/20 (0)
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