Self-determination? The West says "Jump!", and Ukraine replies, "How high, sir?". [nt]

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Topic - Zelensky is preparing to disavow the "peace process"... - Jim Pearce 15:19:55 02/19/25 (161)

Rubio Thinks So - Jotaro 02:32:42 02/22/25 (1)

Who knows what Rubio really thinks, he's been through law school... - peppy m. 04:02:35 02/22/25 (0)

RE: Zelensky is preparing to disavow the "peace process"... - rlindsa 16:38:36 02/21/25 (0)

The Pienist's time as a dictator is swiftly drawing to an end. - emailtim 20:56:24 02/20/25 (0)

Little Z not only wants to disavow the "peace process"...He Also Wants To Prolong the WAR - Jotaro 19:53:16 02/20/25 (6)

Sounds like Russia has set up their own dirty bomb . . . - Billy Wonka 15:21:38 02/21/25 (1)

Could be ! Why should anyone believe what Medvedev says ? (nt - peppy m. 02:57:08 02/22/25 (0)

Good for him if it means self-determination for Ukraine ~n - Feanor 03:52:43 02/21/25 (1)

Self-determination? The West says "Jump!", and Ukraine replies, "How high, sir?". [nt] - Chris from Lafayette 02/21/2510:58:16 02/21/25 (0)

Immediate Extermination Could Solve The Crisis - JDK 03:35:22 02/21/25 (1)

RE: Immediate Extermination Could Solve The Crisis - Jotaro 05:23:12 02/21/25 (0)

RE: Zelensky is preparing to disavow the "peace process"... - Inmate51 16:37:00 02/20/25 (4)

Maybe, but it may also mean the end of American influence in EU and this part of the world - Wojciech 17:38:05 02/20/25 (3)

If a friend expects you to pick up every bar tab . . . - Billy Wonka 19:00:30 02/20/25 (1)

It's not so simple. - Wojciech 19:43:28 02/20/25 (0)

Ironic indeed [nt] - Chris from Lafayette 18:04:39 02/20/25 (0)

So, in summary. . . - Chris from Lafayette 16:18:27 02/20/25 (1)

Women are babysitters, they should stay out of politics. They never realize or admit... - peppy m. 03:09:46 02/22/25 (0)

Actually Ukraine Would Be Better Of Under Russia - Jotaro 16:13:49 02/20/25 (14)

Actually, better off in the EU . . . - Billy Wonka 19:07:22 02/20/25 (4)

RE: "O'Reilly" - Bill?????? (nt) - Steve O 20:25:34 02/20/25 (0)

NO NATO ever - Jotaro 19:44:01 02/20/25 (2)

"Whataboutist" logical fallacy - Feanor 03:50:43 02/21/25 (1)

I don't think you even recognize the irony of your post - Chris from Lafayette 11:24:46 02/21/25 (0)

Have you bounced this off typical Ukrainians? (nt) - Steve O 17:48:38 02/20/25 (8)

No but I'm sure they'd love it.... (nt) - Jotaro 19:45:10 02/20/25 (7)

You could be a member of the negotiating team! Which side? ;-) (nt) - Steve O 19:56:02 02/20/25 (6)

Which side? ;-) TEAM TRUMP..... - Jotaro 20:10:40 02/20/25 (5)

RE: Which side? ;-) DOESN'T MATTER! (nt) - Steve O 20:22:48 02/20/25 (4)

Sure it does...I want that 300 Billion back NT - Jotaro 20:29:27 02/20/25 (3)

Good luck with that. It was never yours to "want" (nt) - Steve O 04:25:30 02/21/25 (2)

I Pay Taxes, How About You? (nt) - Jotaro 16:57:25 02/21/25 (1)

Anyone who isn't paying taxes should start paying ASAP... - peppy m. 03:56:52 02/22/25 (0)

It's hard to known what the abstract *Mr. T* means when he says, "Ukraine started the war..." - peppy m. 10:45:53 02/20/25 (3)

There was a time for diplomacy before troops crossed the border . . . - Billy Wonka 19:13:07 02/20/25 (0)

The usual - has no idea what he is mumbling. - Victor Khomenko 11:19:57 02/20/25 (1)

Hey, Victor - how'd you like that election they just had in Romania? - Chris from Lafayette 11:33:06 02/20/25 (0)

It was destined to end this way. - ghost of olddude55 08:07:54 02/20/25 (60)

Don't forget the Putin's goals don't end with Ukraine - Feanor 11:46:19 02/20/25 (18)

Putin's military is wheezing by having to rely on NoKo troops . . . - Billy Wonka 19:17:54 02/20/25 (1)

Have you ever seen any proof of these so-called NoKo troops? [nt] - Chris from Lafayette 00:49:23 02/21/25 (0)

Feanor - that's your typical boogyman thinking - Chris from Lafayette 12:09:15 02/20/25 (13)

Pootin's goals: "On the Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians" - Steve O 12:54:28 02/20/25 (6)

Well, I just reacquainted myself with it - and did not find it alarming at all - Chris from Lafayette 13:13:55 02/20/25 (5)

Two points - Steve O 15:46:27 02/20/25 (4)

No need to be impressed - I reacquainted myself with it by skimming it! - Chris from Lafayette 17:38:26 02/20/25 (3)

Pootin clearly hints at plans as early as in a 2005 speech - Steve O 18:08:24 02/20/25 (2)

Yes - I've known about that for quite some time - Chris from Lafayette 00:45:53 02/21/25 (1)

Hint hint wink wink (nt) - Steve O 04:27:41 02/21/25 (0)

Putin's "concerns" are a shame - Feanor 12:20:25 02/20/25 (5)

And yet, we were willing to start WW3 during the Cuba Missile Crisis - Chris from Lafayette 12:31:10 02/20/25 (4)

There is no comparison except in your fevered brain - Feanor 12:39:29 02/20/25 (3)

Pathetic Claims - once again you presume to reveal to us what's in Putin's mind - Chris from Lafayette 13:49:08 02/20/25 (0)

His "concerns over NATO" is just a ruse - Victor Khomenko 13:47:31 02/20/25 (1)

Unfortunately, you forget about some of the earlier leaders in Ukraine - Chris from Lafayette 13:59:29 02/20/25 (0)

I'm a Cold War Veteran. - ghost of olddude55 11:53:38 02/20/25 (1)

Yeah right: look at your Presidents during the Cold War - Feanor 12:18:25 02/20/25 (0)

You are forgetting one important thing - Victor Khomenko 10:37:57 02/20/25 (4)

There are thing happening in Europe, all right. - ghost of olddude55 10:52:04 02/20/25 (3)

I know... - Victor Khomenko 11:24:13 02/20/25 (2)

What's happening here isn't unique. - ghost of olddude55 12:02:54 02/20/25 (1)

Exploiting the status quo concerns is one thing ... - Feanor 12:24:25 02/20/25 (0)

Victor agrees with you! Nt - www.records 09:42:13 02/20/25 (34)

He does? - ghost of olddude55 09:48:15 02/20/25 (33)

Your prediction was wrong. - Victor Khomenko 10:38:40 02/20/25 (11)

But Trump has the power. Zelensky doesn't. - ghost of olddude55 10:49:22 02/20/25 (10)

The momentum in Europe is going stronge for Z - Victor Khomenko 10:55:59 02/20/25 (9)

RE: The momentum in Europe is going stronge for Z - www.records 11:14:27 02/20/25 (2)

Vance hurt his FEELINGS! - Chris from Lafayette 11:50:58 02/20/25 (1)

RE: Vance hurt his FEELINGS! - www.records 12:20:49 02/20/25 (0)

"no one in Europe likes trump" - Chris from Lafayette 11:07:53 02/20/25 (4)

If they don't like him, they certainly fear him. - ghost of olddude55 11:12:16 02/20/25 (3)

Less and less. - Victor Khomenko 11:20:53 02/20/25 (2)

RE: Less and less. - tedk. 12:45:12 02/20/25 (0)

I'm sure... - ghost of olddude55 12:04:41 02/20/25 (0)

Until the next elections when the center right gets swept out of existence. - ghost of olddude55 11:06:52 02/20/25 (0)

Your prediction wasn't quite right - Steve O 10:06:57 02/20/25 (20)

They are going through the motions for the Big Orange guy. - Victor Khomenko 10:39:39 02/20/25 (10)

Give the devil his due. Trump's humiliation of Europe... - regmac 11:55:07 02/20/25 (1)

But then, they might have to cut funding for social programs... - peppy m. 15:11:58 02/21/25 (0)

RE: They are going through the motions for the Big Orange guy. - www.records 11:25:09 02/20/25 (7)

Putin started the war and he can end it any time ... - Feanor 12:27:25 02/20/25 (4)

Nope - only in the deranged minds of true believers like you, Feanor - Chris from Lafayette 12:36:21 02/20/25 (3)

Yep, Czechoslovakia 1938 déjà vu all over again ~n - Feanor 03:58:02 02/21/25 (2)

And BTW, your "parallel" would only be valid. . . - Chris from Lafayette 11:49:22 02/21/25 (0)

QED! Thanks, feanor! - Chris from Lafayette 11:32:21 02/21/25 (0)

Really?? So THAT's what defending your country means - Victor Khomenko 11:35:43 02/20/25 (1)

Too bad, Victor - the Ukies don't feel that way now - Chris from Lafayette 12:17:00 02/20/25 (0)

And? - ghost of olddude55 10:08:16 02/20/25 (8)

And! - Steve O 12:20:42 02/20/25 (0)

No, he will not have. - Victor Khomenko 10:40:35 02/20/25 (6)

He won't have many people left. - ghost of olddude55 10:50:30 02/20/25 (5)

But you are wrong - Victor Khomenko 11:00:10 02/20/25 (4)

"Russian economy is falling apart" - Chris from Lafayette 12:24:07 02/20/25 (0)

We've been hearing that now for a couple of years. - ghost of olddude55 11:07:46 02/20/25 (2)

There are some real indicators - Victor Khomenko 11:18:19 02/20/25 (1)

"what the inside experts say is different" - Chris from Lafayette 13:00:12 02/20/25 (0)

RE: It was destined to end this way. - www.records 09:34:03 02/20/25 (0)

And EU can buy the weapons from US to keep the fight going - Wojciech 20:26:35 02/19/25 (3)

RE: And EU can buy the weapons from US to keep the fight going - Rod M 20:39:08 02/19/25 (2)

We have HUGE stockpiles of weapons removed from service - Victor Khomenko 11:22:40 02/20/25 (0)

Yup, and the DOGE wants to fire staff at Huntsville AMCOM - Jay Buridan 09:38:47 02/20/25 (0)

What's to disavow? How can there be a "peace process" when one... - hcman 18:43:07 02/19/25 (24)

RE: What's to disavow? How can there be a "peace process" when one... - Jotaro 19:11:02 02/19/25 (23)

Red flags - JDK 20:36:17 02/19/25 (8)

RE: Red flags - Jotaro 21:10:49 02/19/25 (6)

It's all transactional among the countries. As long as you're useful the protection will be there - Wojciech 21:22:32 02/19/25 (0)

I think the EU received the pointy end of the cattle prod this week - JDK 21:18:25 02/19/25 (4)

RE: I think the EU received the pointy end of the cattle prod this week - Jotaro 21:22:57 02/19/25 (3)

You don't believe Russia wants to spread across Europe - Steve O 08:02:34 02/20/25 (0)

How much money would you truly and honestly be willing to bet on that? nt. - MWE 07:12:41 02/20/25 (0)

RE: I think the EU received the pointy end of the cattle prod this week - JDK 21:54:16 02/19/25 (0)

Well at last it came to a fight - WHERE IS NATO ? - Wojciech 20:45:41 02/19/25 (0)

we know Putin's talking points... - Jim Pearce 19:13:32 02/19/25 (13)

Just the Facts - Jotaro 19:26:51 02/19/25 (12)

RE: Just the (selected) Facts - Steve O 20:36:33 02/19/25 (11)

Considering that Ukraine was never an independent nation - Wojciech 20:56:48 02/19/25 (9)

RE: Considering that Ukraine was never an independent nation - JDK 21:00:04 02/19/25 (8)

Agreed. nt. - MWE 07:16:42 02/20/25 (0)

Nope. What Russia really wanted from Ukraine is to be what Canada is - Wojciech 21:14:08 02/19/25 (6)

RE: Nope. What Russia really wanted from Ukraine is to be what Canada is - JDK 12:02:54 02/20/25 (0)

we're doing fine... - Jim Pearce 07:55:24 02/20/25 (4)

Wishful thinking at best . Your official rhetoric for public consumption may change slightly - Wojciech 08:35:33 02/20/25 (3)

you're projecting... - Jim Pearce 11:37:37 02/20/25 (2)

Of course you're not Poland - Wojciech 12:27:28 02/20/25 (1)

umm...no... - Jim Pearce 12:52:45 02/20/25 (0)

RE: Just the (selected) Facts - Jotaro 20:48:01 02/19/25 (0)

RE: Zelensky is preparing to disavow the "peace process"... - Jotaro 15:38:31 02/19/25 (6)

Did you read what you linked? Oh the irony. - Steve O 17:14:47 02/19/25 (5)

It is not too wise to compare an imperfect democracy with a perfect dictatorship - Victor Khomenko 18:27:54 02/19/25 (3)

"Nothing even close to that under the fascist scum regime" - Chris from Lafayette 11:25:20 02/20/25 (1)

one thing I will say that needs saying - Story 12:02:57 02/20/25 (0)

Yup, I'd certainly prefer one over the other... - peppy m. 10:36:43 02/20/25 (0)

RE: Did you read what you linked? Oh the irony. - Jotaro 18:07:04 02/19/25 (0)

Ghost and I have agreed... - Victor Khomenko 15:29:26 02/19/25 (26)

RE: Ghost and I have agreed... - elblanco 18:26:49 02/19/25 (0)

So hou want the war to continue before you even know what the conditions would be? - www.records 16:50:57 02/19/25 (3)

I see nothing ever bothers someone in a red cap - Victor Khomenko 18:12:43 02/19/25 (2)

RE: I see nothing ever bothers someone in a red cap - www.records 18:22:01 02/19/25 (1)

Thank you for the confirmation. - Victor Khomenko 18:30:30 02/19/25 (0)

RE: Ghost and I have agreed... - JDK 16:23:48 02/19/25 (20)

The logic behind it is that US is at the end of a rope and can't afford it anymore. Listen what Rubio said - Wojciech 20:17:55 02/19/25 (0)

I would be willing to help, but... - Victor Khomenko 18:22:59 02/19/25 (12)

So, you don't know so you just let you imagination run wild? Check! - www.records 19:45:41 02/19/25 (0)

RE: I would be willing to help, but... - JDK 19:32:40 02/19/25 (0)

from Reuters... - Jim Pearce 18:46:20 02/19/25 (6)

From the info I have garnered ... - JDK 19:25:01 02/19/25 (5)

Or Trump could get minerals from Russia when it takes over - Feanor 11:51:19 02/20/25 (4)

Sorry bro - www.records 22:03:49 02/21/25 (0)

Now wait a gosh darn minute! I thought Blackrock was in charge of Ukraine! [nt] - Chris from Lafayette 14:07:34 02/20/25 (2)

It's confusing, isn't it ? - peppy m. 02:01:25 02/22/25 (1)

What, Me Worry? [nt] - Chris from Lafayette 01:26:30 02/23/25 (0)

Well said. nt - hcman 18:34:56 02/19/25 (2)

What? - www.records 20:07:35 02/19/25 (1)

Your level of ignorance in regard to that situation is staggering - Victor Khomenko 10:34:11 02/20/25 (0)

the Manchurian candidate... - Jim Pearce 18:03:58 02/19/25 (5)

That's nonsense. Heartless, to the bone business without " values" and other embellishments attached - Wojciech 20:22:58 02/19/25 (3)

Give the man a cigar. - ghost of olddude55 07:26:44 02/20/25 (2)

My advice to you " start drinking heavily " :) - Wojciech 08:23:13 02/20/25 (1)

Better listen to him. He's pre-med. - ghost of olddude55 09:22:38 02/20/25 (0)

RE: the Manchurian candidate... - www.records 18:15:01 02/19/25 (0)

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Self-determination? The West says "Jump!", and Ukraine replies, "How high, sir?". [nt] - Chris from Lafayette 02/21/2510:58:16 02/21/25 (0)

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